The Trenches, Episode 25 Poll: Has BJ Penn's legacy been tainted by 6 consecutive defeats?

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Has B.J. Penn’s legacy been tainted by six consecutive defeats in the twilight of his career?

  1. Yes

    70.5%
  2. No

    29.5%
  1. bjpennlwgoat

    bjpennlwgoat Blue Belt

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    Nah.
    It just shows he didnt know when to hang it up or that he is just struggling to move on to the next stage of life.

    He is a true fighter though. Nothing can take away what he accomplished ealier in his career.

    Only thing it will change is opinions of casuals who use fight finder and records as a barometer of how good someone is.

    BJ started his career in the UFC and never got to rack up wins against shit competition to build his record up.
     
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  2. BEATDOWNS

    BEATDOWNS Gold Belt

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    roflmfao at these delusional as fuck Penn fans voting No!


    <Lmaoo>
     
  3. europe1

    europe1 It´s a nice peninsula to Asia

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    All performances are contextual. What you do at one time should not be affected by a pooer performer several years later. It does not diminish how great you where at one time.
     
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    jei Danger Zone Admin Staff Member Forum Administrator

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    Steaming hot Yair Rodriguez.
     
  5. CrimsonFan

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    Yeah it has. He knew he was done in that Diaz fight he should have stuck to his guns
     
  6. TheIrishPsycho

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    Blasphemy for even suggesting it. Ban.

    Honestly though bro, as a near psychotic BJ Penn fan...it hasn't changed it for me, i look at those 6 loses when i choose to believe they exist and say: well two were to large prime WWs in Nick and Rory...another was to Frankie who is just an awful match up for BJ and the other 3 came so long after his prime.

    The Yair fight in particular was such poor handling of this legends career, BJ has always been cursed with 'yes' men all around him and they should have not let him fight that guy or rematch Frankie quite frankly.

    BJs entire career in a sense, even the decision to leave the UFC, all of it is a lesson in how to so fucking poorly mismanage a hall of fame career. So I can look at those loses and others like his time outside the UFC and justify them as BJ being BJ.
     
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  7. jei

    jei Danger Zone Admin Staff Member Forum Administrator

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    It's funny this question didn't even come from myself, or the guys. It came from a longtime main page staffer, someone who has forgotten more about the sport than I knew about it. That's what made it doubly intriguing to ask.
     
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    jei Danger Zone Admin Staff Member Forum Administrator

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    UFC 237 is a heartbreaker of a card.
     
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  9. BEATDOWNS

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    Get a grip, bud. lololol
     
  10. Ronin13

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    It doesn’t help
     
  11. TheIrishPsycho

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    No way bro, I'm too pumped for his fight against Guida.

    Hes coming for that belt.

    Can you imagine?

    BJ, Rose, Little Nog, Anderson and Aldo all get KOed on that card?

    This place will go into meltdown.
     
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  12. europe1

    europe1 It´s a nice peninsula to Asia

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    Corey is on a 3 fight win-streak
     
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    LHV title picture:
    --> Reyes and esp Walker need time
    --> Jones wants 4 fights this year?
    Pull up Yoel Romero like Santos + Smith + Anders now are doing
    That would be legiiiiittttttt
    Plus Romero is tied up til after Whittaker + everything else gets figured out
     
  14. europe1

    europe1 It´s a nice peninsula to Asia

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    What can beat Jon Jones?

    A clean sport.

    And does Jason really think a kneeless Cain can beat JJ? That thing is paper-mache
     
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    europe1 It´s a nice peninsula to Asia

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    Wonderboy vs Usman is really interesting. Since Usman is very aggressive but kind of rudimentary and that's exactly what Wonderboy's footwork is built to negate. Thompson's age is kind of an x-factor though
     
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    europe1 It´s a nice peninsula to Asia

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    8 years of MMA training is basically your prime. It's not short at all.
     
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    Guida gonna brutalize him. lol
     
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    Honestly, Askren is a better chain-wrestler than Colby. Colby's advantages is his stand-up which will not be very relevant in a fight vs Usman. Askren is a bigger threat.
     
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    europe1 It´s a nice peninsula to Asia

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    Woodley has trained himself into a corner. He stands against the cage and tries negating his opponent with takedowns/power-punches, it's his sole-strategy. If you do that, you'll eventually run into someone who can negate that one thing. Usman and Rory managed to do that, Usman with pressure and takedown-threats and Rory with jabs.
     
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