The Surface Phone concept – the start of a spectrum shift for smartphones?

I know my company recently stopped allowing windows phones for people who want to tie Outlook into their phone email. I wonder if this is a widespread trend? This would be a good workaround if your phone was now your PC but I doubt that group of users was very big in the first place.
We're finally switching to Outlook at my company. I couldn't use the companion app for the current email system because our server wasn't updated for Win mobile.

Now, I'll be able to just add an email to my current outlook account on my WP. Meanwhile, IT is scrambling to figure out how to update all of the iPhones they give everyone to accommodate the change.

They offered to give me an iPhone and flat out refused it, I only use my personal phone. I don't care if customers call it, I'd rather use only my own phone instead of lugging around my personal phone and the iPhone that I'll hardly and never want to use.
 
We're finally switching to Outlook at my company. I couldn't use the companion app for the current email system because our server wasn't updated for Win mobile.

Now, I'll be able to just add an email to my current outlook account on my WP. Meanwhile, IT is scrambling to figure out how to update all of the iPhones they give everyone to accommodate the change.

They offered to give me an iPhone and flat out refused it, I only use my personal phone. I don't care if customers call it, I'd rather use only my own phone instead of lugging around my personal phone and the iPhone that I'll hardly and never want to use.
I'm mostly in the same boat. I will give my personal phone # pretty freely because I'm not at my desk for large portions of the day, but emails can wait. Plus if I was to get work emails on my phone, technically my company could lock it if they suspected it had been exposed to malware or something along those lines, and that's a can of worms.
 
But, if an app is made for windows 10, it's usable on all devices... thank God. So developers more likely by default to make an app for win 10 phones... case in point. Bank of America. They shit canned development of their Win 8 mobile app because they didn't think it was viable. Now I have an app again because they realized developing one for tablets and PC is... and therefore there's one available for phones.


Oh, I know. But what’s actually happening here is that those apps are being coded so they work with two different chip paradigms. MS put a lot of time into making what is essentially a built in port as easy as all hell for developers so a lot of apps that are available for Windows 10 are also available for Windows 10 mobile – but that’s because those apps are coded to work with ARM and x86 chips.

Contrast this to, say, me having Bluestacks – an Android emulation program – on my Surface 3. I can run this desktop app on my Surface 3 and get access to every single app released on Android through it. That’s because my Surface 3 runs a x86, unlike the Surface 1 and 2, processor which gives it access to desktop and legacy apps. Now, if my phone could do this, which a Surface phone should be able to do, it would open up worlds beyond anything any phone has available from a software standpoint.

MS put a lot of work into Windows Universal apps increasing their app store lineup and, as you’ve noticed, it’s working pretty well for getting apps to appear on Windows 10 mobile. It pales in comparison to what having a phone with a x86 processor makes possible though.
 
Oh, I know. But what’s actually happening here is that those apps are being coded so they work with two different chip paradigms. MS put a lot of time into making what is essentially a built in port as easy as all hell for developers so a lot of apps that are available for Windows 10 are also available for Windows 10 mobile – but that’s because those apps are coded to work with ARM and x86 chips.

Contrast this to, say, me having Bluestacks – an Android emulation program – on my Surface 3. I can run this desktop app on my Surface 3 and get access to every single app released on Android through it. That’s because my Surface 3 runs a x86, unlike the Surface 1 and 2, processor which gives it access to desktop and legacy apps. Now, if my phone could do this, which a Surface phone should be able to do, it would open up worlds beyond anything any phone has available from a software standpoint.

MS put a lot of work into Windows Universal apps increasing their app store lineup and, as you’ve noticed, it’s working pretty well for getting apps to appear on Windows 10 mobile. It pales in comparison to what having a phone with a x86 processor makes possible though.
What are your thoughts on the HP Elite x3?
 
What are your thoughts on the HP Elite x3?


It looks like a great phone and is one of the devices that will really come close to achieving MS’s vision with Windows 10 mobile, continuum, and all of that. For me it doesn’t personally work because – again – I’m a budget phone user… But for current smartphone paradigms, if I were in the market for a full on Windows 10 mobile flagship phone, it would probably be my top pick.

That being said, I think it’s a half measure. You look at things like Windows Universal Apps, Continuum, and all of that, the intent is to make an ARM based phone act like a productive, x86 based PC – and the current software paired with hardware like HP’s offering does pretty well at this. The thing is, it’s trying to make ARM phones that act like x86 PCs when we’re on the verge of having x86 phones that essentially are x86 PC’s. Once kinks are worked out of that hardware – heat, battery, some smoothing over of software – even well done ARM phones like the HP Elite become unnecessary.

That’s my take anyways. I don’t think I’ll care about Windows 10 mobile once Windows 10 full blown is available on phones – though, price will be a big issue for me as I trash a lot of phones working in construction.
 
Windows is bloaty zhit why would you want it on your phone?
 
Windows is bloaty zhit why would you want it on your phone?

The raw capability of the devices - they offer exponentially more software options than things like Android and iOS.

Also, I desperately hope you don't use a Samsung device if you're calling Windows "bloaty" ;)
 
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I don't want the blue screen of death on my phone. I'll pass thanks.
 
I don't want the blue screen of death on my phone. I'll pass thanks.

I have to ask, what kind of phone are you using that doesn't have its own version of "blue screen of death"? Because it sure as hell ain't an Android or iOS device...
 
I have to ask, what kind of phone are you using that doesn't have its own version of "blue screen of death"? Because it sure as hell ain't an Android or iOS device...
I have both and they all suck. But I don't want the Windows issues on my phone. I deal with that bullshit on my pc.
 
I have both and they all suck. But I don't want the Windows issues on my phone. I deal with that bullshit on my pc.


That’s fair. Windows has its own unique issues. Though, mentioning “blue screen” as one of them is a bit outdated when in the context of Windows VS iOS/Androids, because both have *widely* documented versions of their own screens of death.

After having my husband’s iPhone almost bricked last week after an update, suddenly being unable to detect the sim card, which we found out was because the update tied his locked phone to another carrier which was impossible to fix without either A) jailbreaking his phone or B) dealing with Apple support and waiting 24 to 48 hours, it sort of shook my previous impression that iOS was an almost unshakable platform since they controlled both the hardware and software of their phones all but completely. Ever since smartphones came out, there’s no such thing as a phone without its own blue screen type issues. If Google ever gets its idea for customizable phone hardware to catch on, it’ll only get worse too.
 
I need to be able to put my phone in my pocket. So they gotta keep them small enough for that and I'm good.
 
That’s fair. Windows has its own unique issues. Though, mentioning “blue screen” as one of them is a bit outdated when in the context of Windows VS iOS/Androids, because both have *widely* documented versions of their own screens of death.

After having my husband’s iPhone almost bricked last week after an update, suddenly being unable to detect the sim card, which we found out was because the update tied his locked phone to another carrier which was impossible to fix without either A) jailbreaking his phone or B) dealing with Apple support and waiting 24 to 48 hours, it sort of shook my previous impression that iOS was an almost unshakable platform since they controlled both the hardware and software of their phones all but completely. Ever since smartphones came out, there’s no such thing as a phone without its own blue screen type issues. If Google ever gets its idea for customizable phone hardware to catch on, it’ll only get worse too.
I don't give a shit really. I am done with Windows. I do have a windows PC but I don't want the phone.
 
Windows XP phone. The newer Windows os's have not grown on me. I feel old
 
Does this mean I can download porn faster?
 
Does this mean I can download porn faster?

I don’t think so. It will likely mean you have a wider selection of video players on which to watch said porn though, and you might be able to output it to your TV better.
 
I don’t think so. It will likely mean you have a wider selection of video players on which to watch said porn though, and you might be able to output it to your TV better.
Hopefully the screen is easy to wipe clean too
 
Hopefully the screen is easy to wipe clean too

I suspect that Gorilla Glass and its competitors are dumping a lot of research dollars into catering to the needs of people like you.
 
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