The sad thing is D.C will never be taken seriously as LHW champ

[Ar145984]

By a good deal of people. D.C. arguably is one of the greatest fighters of all time. And its like D.C. said


There is no change in that young man (Waiting for full USADA confirmation)

Still, in theory of Jones never fights again people will still overlook all of this and call D.C. a paper champ. At least some will.

 

[BoosieBoo]

LoL.

They will now. Jon has no fans left. He's going to be suspended for 2 years as well.


DC Bless.

 

[leto1776]

Considering he was possibly doping before, it's hard to argue Jones' case now.

 

[BudoPracticioner]

Yeah but since his only loss is to Jones, whose entire legacy is in question now, and it's not like he got finished in that fight.......

 

[Breaking]

Not true. He'll go down as the second best LHW of all time.

That's still pretty good.

 

[Elysianwing]

Fuck those people. I've been taking him serious all along TS, and my opinion is the only one that matters to me.

 

[Filthymaggot]

Paper champ tag officially removed.

 

[Megalodon]

Nope, JJ has just ruined any possible legacy he could have left behind, this isn't a case of an old guy past his prime being caught, he's 28 years old, (technically) undefeated, P4P #1, all of that is gone. DC is the real champ, the JJ fight will just be seen as a blip on DC's record.

 

[Mga223]

Actually no,

Dude they got stripped of the title got done for PED's.

Cormier is now the legit champ in a lot of people's eyes.

 

[thechoice2]

If anything this should make him more of a LHW champ than before since when their first match occurred Jones had some very fishy T:E ratio tests and this wasn't with USADA doing the testing. Now before their 2nd fight Jones gets busted for PEDs, to me it raises the question if Jones was PED free for the first fight and was able to beat him, why would he need them to beat an even older version of Cormier?

I'm a Jones fan and wanted him to win but Cormier is the legit champ now. Basically this is the equivalent of when people say Bonds deserves an asterisk by the season where he hit 73 homers even though there wasn't a positive test for that season.

 

[Big Brown Clown]

Only dumbasses don't take DC seriously as LHW champ. His record absolutely amazing.

 

[Watermelonfresh]

By a good deal of people. D.C. arguably is one of the greatest fighters of all time. And its like D.C. said


There is no change in that young man (Waiting for full USADA confirmation)

Still, in theory of Jones never fights again people will still overlook all of this and call D.C. a paper champ. At least some will.

I do. He's beaten best in world and only 1 loss and the greatest LHW couldn't make the fight and felt he needed peds to beat him. Game set match in my opinion.

 

[bubby]

I will. The ball is in his court. He has a chance to create a legacy, regardless of jones. This is his chance to shine. Clean.

Signed, a drunk, depressed jones fan. I'm rooting for dc to come out from the shadow

 

[Dart Feld]

If anything this should make him more of a LHW champ than before since when their first match occurred Jones had some very fishy T:E ratio tests and this wasn't with USADA doing the testing. Now before their 2nd fight Jones gets busted for PEDs, to me it raises the question if Jones was PED free for the first fight and was able to beat him, why would he need them to beat an even older version of Cormier?

I'm a Jones fan and wanted him to win but Cormier is the legit champ now. Basically this is the equivalent of when people say Bonds deserves an asterisk by the season where he hit 73 homers even though there wasn't a positive test for that season.

DC's numbers were just as low and wonky.

Only one of them has popped but maybe fans need to get out of the mindset that anyone is "definitely" not juicing in MMA.

 

[TrainInVain]

 

[Zatoichi can c]

Jones may have been cheating his whole career and just cleverly avoided detection? once a cheater always a cheater as they say. Jones can't be taken seriously after getting popped for this. He had too much evidence against him already to make him look terrible, but this just ruins his entire legacy.

 

[cheesus]

I hope DC moves up to HW, I think he has a good chance getting the belt and become one of the GOATS.

 

[ostlerrage]

DC's numbers were just as low and wonky.

Only one of them has popped but maybe fans need to get out of the mindset that anyone is "definitely" not juicing in MMA.

Dc's number were not. Proof please....

 

[Knuckles Nielsen]

He may not be seen as a better fighter than Jones, but he will be seen as a better Champion.

 

[thechoice2]

DC's numbers were just as low and wonky.

Only one of them has popped but maybe fans need to get out of the mindset that anyone is "definitely" not juicing in MMA.

DC's numbers weren't as low as Jones' and DC is much older than Jones so his numbers would be expected to be lower just based on age.

Jones had his T/E levels measured on three occasions -- an extra test was ordered because his first sample was diluted -- as part of out-of-competition drug testing ordered by the NAC. His ratio in the three tests were 0.29:1, 0.35:1 and 0.19:1, well below the normal ratio (1.3:1) for an average African-American male, according to Conte. In addition, Jones’ testosterone levels in those three tests were 1.8 ng/mL, 0.59 ng/mL and 4.9 ng/mL; the average level for a male is 61.3 ng/ML.



If they see a deviation in the T/E ratio of greater than 30 percent, there is something up. That’s a red flag,” Conte explained. “If you look at Daniel [Cormier’s] two ratios, they were .42 and .47; that’s about an eight percent deviation. If you look at the numbers for Jon Jones, his was basically an 80 percent deviation. His is suspicious and Daniel Cormier’s is not. It’s not just that he’s got very low [testosterone] levels, much lower than Daniel. Daniel’s are normal, his are extremely low.”

Cormier’s T/E ratios were 0.40:1 and 0.48:1, while his testosterone levels were 50 ng/mL and 70 ng/mL.

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Vi...Levels-Before-UFC-182-Highly-Suspicious-80631