Discussion in 'Dieting / Supplement Discussion' started by shera, May 12, 2014.
Very interesting article in the wall street journal today. Won
Great that this is getting main stream coverage.
The article relies on dubious science itself.
Both "sides" of this argument use dubious science. Neither saturated fat nor sugar are bad for you when they're consumed moderately.
Saturated fat is not bad for you.
Sugar and carbs are not bad if you are burning it off.
IMO based on recent findings sugar and carbs are inflamitory and should be moderated.
4 years ago .... http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f15/cholesterol-saturated-fat-myths-addressed-here-1141488/
I think the sherdog community was on top of these issue long before mainstream coverage but the parts that were really interesting to me where when it mentions that the ones who substituted butter with vegetable oils suffered higher incidences of cancer, gallstones, violent deaths and suicide! It's crazy that that those heated vegetable oils are much more dangerous than, say, butter or cocunut oil oil but out own FDA guidelines is what made restaurants switch to using those deadly vegetable oils in their deep fryers.
What do you guys think about this article?
High fat diet increases cancer in mice
A good chunk of the oil used was corn oil, which is high in polyunsaturated fats, which makes me wonder if perhaps that's the oil to be careful with. A bit of a simplification though, of course.
Even the high fat mice were fed corn starch and maltodextrin every day.
Casein is a bad protein for a fat based study.
Cellulose. for fiber
This is a completely stupid study with zero relevant data because of asinine dietary formulations.
Anything would have a very short life on those diets
Post Lustig video please so the kids can get edumacated.
Man I had hoped someone pushed that quack off a bridge by now.
Calm down there. I think that you and AW9000+ are completely missing the point of this study. The mice were given DMBA which is a real nasty immunosuppressor and carcinogen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7,12-Dimethylbenz(a)anthracene). The study simply states in rather complicated terms that high fat diets have a lower rate of DMBA induced tumors than low fat diets.
OP mainstream media has a long history of being sadly less than 100% accurate when it comes to reporting on science, and this article is quite frankly misleading. ALL NATURAL fats and oils are safe in moderation whether their source is animal or vegetable. The fat that leads to heart disease is called Trans-fats. Trans-fats are the product of artificial hydrogenation processes, and produced by heating unsaturated fats to high temperatures for a long period of time (such as deep fry fryers). The author of this article though choose to sensationalize this topic though instead of acknowledging that only trans-fats are to blame.
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