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The question is not how big and strong Jon would be at HW, it’s how many shots can his chin absorb..

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  1. true_fan Silver Belt

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    From the IN Ganoo canons? So far everyone that stood and traded with Francis faced the same fate —darkness. The only person to survive a barrage of punches was Stipe but eventually broke and went to the world of realms. So the question remains, how many Ford Escorts can Bones’ chin absorb before the darkness arrives once Francis goes for the blitz?
     
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  2. TheBulge Green Belt

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    That's not the main question. The GOAT LHW chin will have no problem absorbing HW punches. The problem would be taking too many of them, and Jon won't. Worst case scenario he literally runs away from Ngannou or pulls guard. Eventually he weathers the storm because he's a survivor and Ngannou will never have a gas tank. He's not getting knocked out.
     
  3. true_fan Silver Belt

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    He ran from Reyes and still got hit so running from Francis is a huge mistake because he won’t have a base when getting hit. Francis blitzes and doesn’t care if he gets hit on the way as long as he reaches that chin
     
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    he has to beat him to the punch with straights then close the distance before he recovers and beat him in the clinch.
     
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    Ngannou isn't even remotely close to being as fast as Reyes. If Jones chooses to run to get out of harms way, FN will never catch him and the more futile effort he puts into it, the quicker he gasses out. His fans tend to forget that he still has never proven to have cardio.
     
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    Yup, not only his chin, we don't even know if he can adapt his other skills (especially wrestling) well at HW. There is no guarantee on this. GSP probably couldn't beat any other middleweight champ except for Bisping, this is even a harder challenge considering that Jones is getting more than 15 pounds difference, the difference between welterweight (170) and middleweight (185) (or middleweight - light heavyweight), is smaller difference than the difference between light heavyweight (205) and heavyweight (265).
     
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    If he chooses to run, he better run to his pharmacist because this ain’t lightheavy son.
     
  8. true_fan Silver Belt

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    True but Jones will come in heavy also and be slower so the results are the same and Jon tends to always get hit which is a fatal mistake against Francis! Though who knows, maybe Jon has better chin than all the heavies but I really doubt any human can take more 2-3 extreme punches to the face and stays standing because it’s against humans nature to not go to sleep in order to protect the brains from further concussions
     
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    He won't need to absorb when he's running from the fight.
     
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    Jon has fought his whole career relatively unscathed. I think a better question is what happens when Francis can't land? What's his plan B?
     
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    If ngannou connects clear not even one, he would switch off jones like a television..
     
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    Jones gets haymakered in just about every fight against men who are tiny compared to Ngannou. Ngannou is way faster and explosive compared to Jones. This is a myth that annoys me like no other, that Jones well have a speed advantage at heavyweight. Watch Brett Rogers vs Fedor and tell me Jones is faster than Rogers. He isn't because he lacks explosive muscle mass.
     
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    Francis would’ve killed Fedor in his prime of primes and Fedor is very hittable
     
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    I don’t think Jones could withstand a flush shot from any of the top 3 HW. But, I don’t think my opinion will ever be put to the test. Because Jones is ducking all of them.
     
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    I don't think he can take too many of Francis's punches, but I'm also not sure Francis can connect. Jones will be slower at heavyweight, but it can depend on what weight he comes in at.
     
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    A better question would be, how many leg kicks could Jones handle?
     
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    Fedor faced heavyweights for 10 years before losing so he gets the benefit of the doubt here. Jones gets into wars of attrition with light heavyweights, so how he beats heavyweights is a mystery to me
     
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    Jones is not standing and trading with Ngannou in any circumstance. When was the last time Jones took a 205er down and demolished them on the ground? Let alone on someone who is heavier with more muscle mass like ngannou? At 6'4?
     
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    The other big question is even though HW's may hit harder than LHW's, they also have to be able to actually land. Jon is not easy to land flush on at all and he has fought much faster guys.

    I think the folks who believe Ngannou is just gonna knock Jon out cold in 50 seconds might be in for a rude awakening.. I don't think its gonna be as easy to land as you think.
     
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    I don't agree at all. Heavyweights close distance much faster and won't be physically bullied or kept at bay by Jones' size. Jones being so much bigger than most of his opponents allows him to dictate the distance he fights at. Still, Jones gets hit hard in all of his fights, he is very hittable.

    Mark Hunt and Fedor are unique examples, but their explosive speed allowed them to close the distance immediately on big opponents. The bigger heavyweights can pressure Jones and blitz through him without the worry of one punch ko power coming at them. For a guy who has never fought heavyweight, Jones gets way too much benefit. Heavyweight mma is a different sport
     
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