The Problem With Women's MMA

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  1. PalmStrike

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    Bullspit !


    Football fans don't have to pay for the NFL.

    Its not the poor fans, its the greedy UFC
     
  2. LHWBelt

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    No it's like saying the male fw champ would own the female fw champ.
     
  3. Better Every Day

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    I'm not much of a fan of watching tennis, but I'd rather watch women's tennis than men's tennis. Men's tennis has more aces (wins on the serve), and I find these unanswered serves to be less interesting than rallies (the ball going back and forth across the net). So it isn't just the eye candy, the matches themselves have more interesting action, in my opinion.

    I'll add that, at the Olympics, I expect that women's gymnastics is better attended than men's gymnastics.
     
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  4. Melas Chasma

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    Imagine genuinely believing that an average, out of shape, overweight 30-40y old man with zero combat sports background with 1 minute cardio without knowing how to even throw a punch would be a favorite in an MMA fight against UFC level female fighter just because he is a man, lmao.

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  5. ConorFacts

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    Mens tennis gets more viewership on the pro Level + brings in more money for Pretty much every Tournament.

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  6. BLIND

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    That list plus abt 5-7 more fighters are the only legitimately highly skilled WMMA fighters and that is across 4 weight classes.
     
  7. No Skill Gap

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    By on another level physically you mean: Injecting anabolic steroids.

    Andrade for sure is not natural, and I know everyone including myself loves Zhang now, but it would be disingenuous to not question her "supplementation" as a possibility.

    Taking PEDs for women is much more dramatically impactful than it is for men because the baseline is so low to begin with for test/androgen.
     
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  8. Hellowhosthat

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    I don't really get this as a slight against the UFC when every promotion is doing it and has reasons for doing so.

    Bellator gave a massive contract to Cyborg and pushes Ilima-Lei more than probably any of their other fighters.

    PFL pays Kayla Harrison more than any of the guys and shows with her on seem to do better for them.

    Angela Lee is one of the biggest stars in ONE (if not the biggest) and they also have shows headlined by Stamp Fairtex etc.

    Rizin pushes Hamderlei, Rena, Yamasaki etc and has quite a few WMMA fights per card usually.

    Every major promotion aside from ACA has some kind of focus on WMMA.
     
  9. TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle

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    Being this much of a white knight....

    If you can honestly picture the likes of PVZ or Rose beating up a man in a serious fight where the man is actually fully trying to win you're nuts. Fighters like Nunes and Cyborg are a little different because they're butch bull dykes with abnormal testosterone levels for women, they might have a chance against the guys in your gif but even with them most in shape males with even a basic idea of fighting would handle them. Most of these MMA females have the size, strength, power, athleticism and durability of a 13 year old boy. Technique at that point doesnt matter. A bjj black belt wont stop a grizzly from tearing you to pieces.
     
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  10. Hellowhosthat

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    Most men are complete pussies. When new dudes come to the gym and train BJJ, the first few times rolling with them is like playing with a small child.
     
  11. kungfu_taichi

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    There's a difference between a shallow talent pool, and having super-elite fighters. Has the talent pool at mens LHW been shallow for the last ten years? Or is Jones just that good? Has Khabib NEVER lost at lightweight because the talent pool is shallow? LOL.

    Women's MMA is 10-15 years behind men's mma in development. Most of the WMMA fights are still specialists. Wrestlers who punch, kickboxers with a little guard. And then you have Nunes and Shevchenko who are mixed martial artists. Nunes went for a firefight with Cyborg, then went for a GSP style grind-a-thon vs The Iron Lady. Not many in mixed martial arts period have the skillset to do that. In WMMA, that list is two names long. Give it a decade, and this point in time will be a place we had to pass through to get what we wanted.
     
  12. ConorFacts

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    Maybe the avg. guy in the states.
     
  13. Hellowhosthat

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    Which ultra-tough country are you from?
     
  14. ConorFacts

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    Russia, Germany and south italy.
     
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    I'll maybe give you Russia. Fucking lol @ the other two.
     
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  16. arcadeperfect

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    Isn't it funny how the weight class names are the same for women. 145 is "featherweight" and 135 is "bantamweight." Featherweights are averaged sized guys or slightly smaller, something that Cyborg or Nunes isn't lol.
     
  17. arcadeperfect

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    The big difference is the talent pool. Men's featherweight is and always will be a competitive weight class in comparison to heavyweight. The women's divisions are even worse than heavyweight, for every Shevchenko you get tons of crap. The percentage of women that are even interested in sports is small let alone competing, let alone fighting.
     
  18. arcadeperfect

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    It's doubtful to be honest. Fighting isn't exactly a number one priority for girls, I'm not being sexist it's just a fact. Sports in general isn't nearly as popular among females as it is to males, let alone combat sports.
     
  19. ConorFacts

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    boom
     
  20. Spiderbite

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    You got me Dude. Brutal Stuff.

    Also *Ours not our's
     

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