The Problem With Women's MMA

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  1. Thickfreakness

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    Jimmy Smith explains that the big problem with women's MMA is the shallow-talent pool, and how that negatively impacts the development of top-level fighters.

    Do you agree?
     
  2. Paolo Delutis

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    In other news...water is wet

    This guy should not be handling MMA

    Its still relatively new to the UFC its gunna take time for it to mature just like mens did..go back watch the first UFCs..even when they adopted the unified rules its completely different..
     
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    I don't think anyone disagrees with that. I'm in favour of WMMA and yet I pretty much never watch any WMMA fight that hasn't some top 5 implications.
     
  4. poor form

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    Well if the women are training with men, why would the actual fights make any difference in their development? From alot of media I’ve seen the women train alot with men.

    Just going by the OP. I didn’t watch the video.
     
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    Agree

    Ronda would still be a top 5, maybe top 3 in the division
     
  6. SuperNerd

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    You can't deny that argument.

    But if you want one, I'd say... star power would make that irrelevant. Rousey drew record numbers against the worst fighters in modern UFC
     
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    Poor fight fans are the problem.
     
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    Jimmy Smith is cool but he is just stating the obvious.

    No depth? No shit. The UFC (the best MMA organization in the world) cant even fill a 145 weight class. In every weight class its the top 3-5..... then crickets.
     
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    loisestrad Gold Belt Platinum Member

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    The talent pool in wmma isn't gonna get any bigger if you don't put women in the spotlight. You need role models.

    Girls are gonna watch Valentina (as they watched Ronda before) and go: "That could be me, this is what I wanna do".
     
  10. VodkaDrunkenski

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    UFC forcing WMMA onto the cards is nothing short of a political act.

    If a WMMA-only promotion existed, no one outside of soya-munching hippies would watch.

    The only form of protest they understand is with your wallet. Don’t spend a cent with them unless there is no WMMA on the card.
     
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    Theres a few women fighters i'll watch but the talent pool is wafer thin and women just do not have anywhere near the same level of physical attributes that men do when it comes to fighting. All politics etc aside its just objectively inferior MMA. The supposed no1 MMA org is spending like 30 minutes or so of practically every card showcasing fights between fighters that would lose to most of the people in the crowd watching them.
     
  13. Verace

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    Wrong.

    Believe it or not, they actually do really good numbers. Thats why the UFC has them on.
    I dont know where these numbers are coming from, but they are real.
    The UFC is the ultimate money based decision maker. If they are putting them there, and as a matter of fact in a lot of prestiged positions such as big main cards and even main events, there is a reason for it.

    It actually exists. Is called Invicta FC

    Listen.... im not a big fan of WMMA myself, im just telling it like it is.
     
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    The biggest problem with women's MMA is that the UFC airs that shit on the same cards as the men's fights.
     
  15. Mammothman

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    There are also many girls following the PVZ route, get a boob job, beat a couple of cans and become an IG influencer, profit.

    You can see they are here not to become to best just popular
     
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    Yeah, I'm sure it has nothing to do with reaching out to a population that's 50 % female, and thereby not only getting women to watch the UFC but also getting them to compete and practice MMA in order to literally get better entertainment for everyone... It must be "political" ...
     
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    Each division has decent fighters up to about the top five, but usually after that (and sadly sometimes before as in the case of the Flyweight division as there's not much talent there beyond the Champ) there is a significant drop-off of female fighters who shouldn't really be in MMA let along fighting in the "prestigious" UFC.

    It wouldn't matter so much if there were stars to carry these weak division, as has already been said Rousey drew huge numbers & media attention facing very weak opposition, until Holm & Nunes. But no-one else has got anywhere close to that level of interest. Nunes should be a megastar, a lesbian, two-weight champion who is killing all opposition but hasn't really crossed over into the mainstream. Best option is Zhang, an exciting fighter, Asian heritage & has by far the best run of possible contenders of all the female division.

    The UFC needs to cherry-pick the best fighters out of Invicta & swap them with promising fighters who are in the UFC but really shouldn't be yet, then use Invicta as a development company where fighters can gain the experience & skills ready for the Octagon rather than throwing them in the UFC before they are ready & making a mockery of the fighter, the division & WMMA in general.

    The sad part is that when done well with the top talented fighters WMMA can be genuinely exciting & pull the fans in. Even those who post on here just to dismiss WMMA can't honestly say they weren't looking forward to Nunes vs. Cyborg or that the fight wasn't exciting.
     
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  18. Redfish

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    I just don't get why people get wound up about Womens MMA. Theres plenty of dog shit Mens MMA too. Pretty much every card has dog shit Mens MMA.

    I bet half those complaining just don't like women.
     
  19. DOMMA

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    Women's MMA is evolving and getting better. The top 10 UFC women are all skilled, legit fighters and the talent list is improving.
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    women Soccer is 100000x deeper than MEN MMA and they still suck
     

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