The perfect summary of my opinion of my party.

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  1. panamaican

    panamaican Senior Moderator Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/15/o...where-the-right-went-wrong.html?smid=tw-share

    As opinion pieces go, it hits all of my biggest concerns. It's the quintessential summary of everything that's gone wrong with conservative media over the last decade or more.

    I'm not posting it to change anyone's opinion. One of the takeaways from this piece is how impossible that is in our modern environment. But it is better written than anything I've written on the subject so I think it's worth reading, even if you don't agree with the author.
     
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  2. m52nickerson

    m52nickerson EXTERMINATE!

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    You can tell that was written from the heart.
     
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  3. brothir

    brothir Purple Belt

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    What's the solution?
     
  4. Kingz

    Kingz Gold Belt

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    Conservatives still stand for the same thing, Charlie. Republicans went with a Republican this time.
     
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  5. ripskater

    ripskater Guest

    The first thing I disagree with this author is this. Trump is really not a conservative. He's liberal on many issues.

    I'd say Cruz was the pure conservative. But I did not like him.
     
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  6. JonnyRingo84

    JonnyRingo84 Gold Belt

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    good read ts.

    i actually think facebook's attempt to have standards for their "news" posts is a good start. there are potential problems, of course. it will be interpreted as censorship, and if done poorly, thats what it could amount to.

    if done well, and true journalistic practices are used to weed out the fake ass click bait that spreads like wildfire, that will do so much imo. people on the left and the right will be more protected from their shit critical thinking skills.

    whats truly sad imo, is this issue of "fake news" was only brought up as a major issue AFTER this election. sad!
     
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  7. Pale Man In Black

    Pale Man In Black Brown Belt

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    NeverTrumper, eh?
    These esablishment RINOs are the reason for Trump's ascendancy.
    Fuck the GOP, they are just as bad as the Dems. We are governed by a uniparty that takes turns tag-taming the middle class and gets richer in the process.
    Trump represents a shift from the status quo, for better or worse, we shall find out. To old Paleocons like me, I watched my party desert the things that were supposed to be staples of conservatism (like Savage says: language, borders and culture) in favor of globalism, multiculturalism and national suicide.
    I had all but given up on the GOP, voting for Trump was a last hail Mary roll of the dice for me. What happens next, we'll find out.
    Not a knock on you or the post, just my $0.02.
     
  8. ripskater

    ripskater Guest

    And this is not an attack on you Pan. But based on reading your posts I personally don't classify you as a conservative. If I remember right, I think I've heard you classify yourself as a conservative.
     
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  9. JonnyRingo84

    JonnyRingo84 Gold Belt

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    environmentalists hate him
    progressives hate him
    free traders hate him


    aka "liberals"
     
  10. Rex is Puerto Rican.

    Rex is Puerto Rican. And a fatass.

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    Interesting timing and title considering that the right won and is feasting on delicious liberal tears.
     
  11. ripskater

    ripskater Guest

    I think many of today's liberals have gone off the deep end. They're so far left, that a 90's Bill Clinton would be called a right wing lunatic today.
     
  12. ripskater

    ripskater Guest

    Well said PMIB
     
  13. NewGuardBjj

    NewGuardBjj Guest

    I call bs. You are are not and never were a conservative. You're posting this as a liberal spy.
     
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  14. Pale Man In Black

    Pale Man In Black Brown Belt

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    Thanks, Rip.
    I'm still leery, though. Well see what happens I guess. Either way, it wont effect me personally too much, I'll continue doing the same thing always do. Get up, go to work, take care of my family and shitpost on sherdog on my free time
     
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  15. ripskater

    ripskater Guest

    Right on!
     
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  16. uncommon

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    I guess im not a hardcore conservative because i have some pragmatism in me.

    Maybe the strict conservatives are falling under their own hypocrisy by looking for the "perfect" candidate. a "God" so to speek.

    Their own belief system is geared around the idea that humans CANT be perfect, therefore governments cant be perfect and must be held to a limited position.

    So when i hear the purists calling for " an evil hillary" win in their own words over something they recognize as BETTER, that makes them the sinner in my book.

    Where was the claim of purity when entitlements ran up the debt to 19 trillion? where was the claim of purity when constitutional rights were being eroded via patriot or ndaa?

    But Trump won, so now we are supposed to call out the lesser conservatives? When this is the best chance of a conservative supreme court?


    Get off your high horse "conservatives" Trump won. Get over it.
     
  17. NewGuardBjj

    NewGuardBjj Guest

    Bra it could shitstorm fast. I think Trump is a major dickhead but I like some of his moves. Still, this thing with Russia and China has me worried
     
  18. Warlord Palis

    Warlord Palis Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    You and the author are obsolete.
     
  19. Rod1

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    Republicans were never the nativist party that was just something that came up after the southern strategy attracted disenfranchised democrats.

    So its quite hilarious from your part to be calling old school republicans to be RINOs.
     
  20. m52nickerson

    m52nickerson EXTERMINATE!

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    Yup, facts and logic are obsolete. Well until things get fucked up enough and rational people have to step back up an fix shit...again.
     
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