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I'm sorry... I can not contain myself
Huge Jones fan here..
Cocaine IS , and has always been performance enhancing for a pro athlete. It is as effective if not more than roids.
If you don't think it's a PED, you're a massive dork who needs to get their head out of their asses.
In-Competition Testing is a test where a boxer is selected for testing in connection with a specific competition such as world championships, national tournament, Olympic Games, ... The recognised period for In-Competition Testing begins at midnight the day of the initial draw until midnight the day following the end of the competition for the boxer.I don't get that either, that's in camp. It seems to me the big named fighters and champs normally get like 5-8 weeks for a training camp. Does anyone know what "in competition" means?
I don't get that either, that's in camp. It seems to me the big named fighters and champs normally get like 5-8 weeks for a training camp. Does anyone know what "in competition" means?
Cocaine is definitely performance enhancing. I used to snort caine before working out because it would allow me to workout more intensely.
It doesn't matter whether he was on caine during the fight or not. Using coke while working out or training is performance enhancing.
Also, Cocaine takes 2 days to clear from your system which means that if he tested positive on December 4th, he was using it during his training camp.
Cocaine is definitely performance enhancing. I used to snort caine before working out because it would allow me to workout more intensely.
It doesn't matter whether he was on caine during the fight or not. Using coke while working out or training is performance enhancing.
Also, Cocaine takes 2 days to clear from your system which means that if he tested positive on December 4th, he was using it during his training camp.
Nobody would add coke as part of their training. Especially training 8-12 weeks. It is good for short bursts. Coming down makes you useless. It would be completely counter-productive for training. I guess if during one training session you REALLY wanted to go all out it might help for that one session and then your next 2 would be screwed. But what good would that do someone? And your mind is all over the place and you basically are just exerting energy and not learning anything.
So no, people are grasping at straws if they think this helped him in the fight in any way. if anything, it hurt him since it was out of his system come fight time.
this proves nothing more than you're an absolute moron
You think that if you snort coke for 1 training session, the crash would make your next 2 training sessions useless? ummm.... maybe you have a different reaction to coke than me but i never crashed that hard unless I went on a 1 or 2 week coke binger and even then I would crash hard for about a day only. I used to snort coke before working out a lot. It would allow me to have a more intense workout than normal and the crash never effected me like you say it would.
In-Competition Testing is a test where a boxer is selected for testing in connection with a specific competition such as world championships, national tournament, Olympic Games, ... The recognised period for In-Competition Testing begins at midnight the day of the initial draw until midnight the day following the end of the competition for the boxer.
Out-of-Competition Testing - commonly abbreviated OOC - is any doping control which is - logically - not organised during the recognised period of In-Competition Testing. Out-of-Competition Testing can happen anytime and anywhere. It can happen that a boxer is tested by his/her national federation today and tomorrow the International Boxing Association turns up for another test.
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This. The rehab is just an attempt to portray himself as a sympathetic lost soul rather than a party boy.If it took it before the fight it would speed up his reflexes and give him more stamina for the fight as well as a numbness which would enable him to take more shots. Having said that he probably just used it to party and chat more freely during the press week. That rehab story is complete bs. Coke addicts take a few lines an hour, don't think Jones is on that.
I've already seen a few threads saying "wait, coke is OK but weed isn't?" or "Diaz gets suspended for a year for weed and Jones does coke and gets nothing?"
OK I'm not sure if these threads are serious, maybe they're people just playing around, but if they are and for anyone else similarly confused this thread is for you.
First, there's a difference between in competition testing (that is, the drug tests you take immediately after your fight) and out of competition testing (the tests you take in the weeks/months leading up to an announced fight.)
Both coke and weed are banned substances in an in-competition test. Neither coke nor weed is banned in an out of competition test.
Jones tested positive for coke metabolites in an out of competition test. Diaz tested positive for weed metabolites in an in-competition test.
I will note that the weed rules have changed, and the threshold for a positive test is MUCH higher now than it was when Diaz got popped. It's high enough so that you'd have to be high or have just smoked mere hours before your fight to test positive now. Diaz's positive test probably would've come back negative today. It's unfortunate that he and many others were punished for a drug metabolite that didn't have any influence on the fight, but at least that flaw in the rules is fixed. Diaz also got a higher suspension because it was his second offense.
So that's the difference between coke and weed (TL;DR, there basically isn't any) and that's why Diaz got suspended and Jones didn't.
Huge Jones fan here..
Cocaine IS , and has always been performance enhancing for a pro athlete. It is as effective if not more than roids.
If you don't think it's a PED, you're a massive dork who needs to get their head out of their asses.
I call bullshit. It would be totally useless. Coke crash comes almost immediately-it's really only good for cutting weight.
I think you are the massive dork. Instead why don't you provide how doing coke in November when you aren't in competition causes someone to have better results in January.
no bs. if the crash came along that quickly, i would just snort another line or two. Yes, I could see how it would help weight cutting cause it kills your appetite.
I dont like posting about stuff like this but coke really is a PED
You think that if you snort coke for 1 training session, the crash would make your next 2 training sessions useless? ummm.... maybe you have a different reaction to coke than me but i never crashed that hard unless I went on a 1 or 2 week coke binger and even then I would crash hard for about a day only. I used to snort coke before working out a lot. It would allow me to have a more intense workout than normal and the crash never effected me like you say it would.
Helped in training? Just playing devils advocate here, but steroids are illegal and not because you shoot them up right before you step into the octagon