The One Landed Punch in MMA is resulting in too many upsets, Luck is playing too big a factor

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  1. Dessyboy

    Dessyboy Green Belt

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    with MMA you have the smaller gloves but more importantly, when a punch is landed, with the follow up, there is no chance to recover like a knockdown in boxing

    That;s all good and well, but it is resulting in way too many upsets

    Fighters are the top are all very skilled nowadays, there are no muppets

    Anyone can land that one strike

    Imagine if tennis matches were won by one great point won by the lesser player or one touchdown in the NFL or one basket in the NBA

    I don't mind upsets in sport, its good for the sport but in MMA there are too many and they just do not feel earned

    If someone outside the Top 10 beats Federer or Murray in a grand slam over 5 sets they have definitely earnt it
     
  2. Emjay

    Emjay And again and again and again and ag.. zzzzzzzz

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    It's not luck if your intention is to land
     
  3. BotchBoi

    BotchBoi PWD FF CHAMP!

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    MMA is inherently more based on luck because fighters don't compete as much as other sports, just the way it has to be or these guy would die three years after they debut.
     
  4. blaseblah

    blaseblah Gold Belt

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    Its not luck. Its fighters not having good striking defense.
     
  5. BC

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    What he said [​IMG]
     
  6. rodent

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    usada disagrees
     
  7. what-wut

    what-wut Purple Belt

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    You mean shitty boxing is the cause of upsets. Fucking Matt brown with his hands down.
     
  8. King Bastar

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    Every fight needs to be made 2/3 falls.
     
  9. The Young Wolf

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    It's not luck. It's the human body. Hit some one in the face at the right spot hard enough and they go night night. Doesn't matter about skill, doesn't matter about anything else. If you don't want to get knocked out don't get clean shots to the jaw
     
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  10. johncola

    johncola Red Belt

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    It's the reality of fighting.

    It's also a freak occurrence that it's happened so much recently. Miocic, Bisping, Alvarez, and now Woodley. All 4 could be flukes for all we know. We didn't get to see any of them play out to see how their skills match up.
     
  11. Dessyboy

    Dessyboy Green Belt

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    Yes i know if you intend to throw a punch and it lands then it's not luck but how many times can you do it out of a hundred

    If i throw a dart at a dartboard and get a bullseye that i was aiming for, it's not technically luck because i aimed for it, but it is luck because i'm not skilled enough to repeat the feat as much as the professionals
     
  12. JonesBones

    JonesBones Excuse my contraflow

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    This bad logic again. Can always count on you to give shallow responses.

    There are many things one attempts to do and succeeds which would be called luck. Is hitting a hole in one luck? Winning the lottery? It was the person's intention to do such things. Is a full court shot at the buzzer luck?

    Think.
     
  13. 12ga.

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    Do what I do watch the smaller guys. They cant hurt each other as much and move faster too. Seems like skill trumps luck more so. I hate HW. Obviously any HW can destroy the little guys but it's a total crap shoot among themselves.
     
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  14. Shaungotti

    Shaungotti Black Belt

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    This logic has always been flawed.

    I don't even think Woodley was lucky but this intent thing never made sense.

    A hole in one requires luck. A golfer's intent is to do it every time but it next to never happens statistically.
     
  15. FrankGarrett316

    FrankGarrett316 Forum vigilante

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    What do you propose as a solution to this "problem" then?
     
  16. Kawlinz

    Kawlinz How do I change my Custom User Title?

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  17. Cygnus-X

    Cygnus-X Red Belt

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    Yes, we should book fighters to not punch the head. Patterson, get in here.
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  18. Ananth

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    Woodley a landed a right, before the finishing shot as well. Lawler reacted well to that, but the cobwebs wouldn't have cleared in time.

    Woodley has crazy power, and he loads up on every punch he throws.
     
  19. Scyth300

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    Like how Shane Carwin landed 11 1st round knockouts in a row.
     
  20. discrawg

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    What the f**k, I hope you're not referring to the WW title fight. That wasn't luck.
     

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