The Nazis were LEFTISTS--PROOF-- and what left vs right really means

It works from an economic perspective.

Doesn't work from a social perspective.

Your diagram does not work at all.

Maybe you are thinking of different words.

Come to think of it, there are almost the same. Communism is complete gubment control. Hitler was trying to take over things too.

Hitler felt the Jews had too much control, and wanted to take it from them. Lenin and his ilk felt the rich people had too much control, and took it from them. But I think Hitler, at some point would pull a China, and let Germans
have control back. Where as in the Commies will keep control.

And the left in america has their 1% to blame everything on....the rich just like the nazis had their 1% to scapegoat (the jews made up 1% of nazi germany)

Nazis were not leftists you goofs.

I understand your feelings and opinion but they do not matter to me. You have not refuted anything I put forth. Go back to the diaper changing table your parents are worried to death.
 
Your diagram does not work at all.

Maybe you are thinking of different words.
No. You are thinking totalitarianism vs. anarchy diagram.

The Nazi's were far right socially and economically left.
 
I understand your feelings and opinion but they do not matter to me. You have not refuted anything I put forth. Go back to the diaper changing table your parents are worried to death.
There is nothing to refute you goof. You don't show any grasp of what Germany was like prior to and during Hitler's life. There is no mention of how fascism is a rational function of capitalism. There is no mention of how Italy and Spain fit into Hitler's movement ideologically. Its just a typical Pixelated thread where you go around yelling at people who don't agree with you and high five people who do. Your thesis is not well thought out, fully lacking a historical context, cherry picking and dumb. Maybe you should try reading some more about fascism and history before you try and make claims about one of the most studied individuals and time periods.
 
There is nothing to refute you goof. You don't show any grasp of what Germany was like prior to and during Hitler's life. There is no mention of how fascism is a rational function of capitalism. There is no mention of how Italy and Spain fit into Hitler's movement ideologically. Its just a typical Pixelated thread where you go around yelling at people who don't agree with you and high five people who do. Your thesis is not well thought out, fully lacking a historical context, cherry picking and dumb. Maybe you should try reading some more about fascism and history before you try and make claims about one of the most studied individuals and time periods.

What does this have to do with anything? None of what you said refutes or adds anything to this thread so please get the fuck out.


It is just another PP thread with a statement supported by facts and evidence.
Much better than one of your fart abortions you call posts.
 
No. You are thinking totalitarianism vs. anarchy diagram.

The Nazi's were far right socially and economically left.

No I am not. You are thinking there is a center of a position and left and right of X idea.
I am talking about actual left wing vs right wing.
 
I've seen plenty of bad threads before, but this clown is in a league of his own.

Who ties your shoes for you?
 
Not sure what that means. I am not changing the actions of the third reich. Just giving definitions and putting things in proper place according there where they belong when words mean what they mean...how anti-leftist of me.

The terms "left" and "right" appeared during the French Revolution of 1789 when members of the National Assembly divided into supporters of the king to the president's right and supporters of the revolution to his left. One deputy, the Baron de Gauville, explained, "We began to recognize each other: those who were loyal to religion and the king took up positions to the right of the chair so as to avoid the shouts, oaths, and indecencies that enjoyed free rein in the opposing camp." However, the Right opposed the seating arrangement because they believed that deputies should support private or general interests but should not form factions or political parties. The contemporary press occasionally used the terms "left" and "right" to refer to the opposing sides.[6]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left–right_politics#History_of_the_terms

Liberalism is not about expanded government is about freedoms.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism
 
TL/DR you don't know what right means in any meaningful historical context. Monarchies, aristocratic dictatorships, nationalist authoritarian regimes, theocracies are not left just because they don't follow the economic missives of Hyek. Genghis Kan was not left.

Tradition, hierarchy, rate of change, etc. are more meaningful. Please spend at least a few seconds understanding the historical origin the terms left and right (from the French Revolution) before repeating this nonesense. The right referred to royalists who were reacting to the progressive agenda of the left.

Nazis find their place on the right as they appeal to a reinvented past through a hyper form of nationalism. They are not bound by the reality of true history at all and nationalistic legends become complete myth under the nazis, but the dynamic is the same if only put on steroids (and their role in history is very similar to the ultra royalists of France from which the term was coined).
Top notch post
 
Pixelated Porn is making a furious, last-second dash to nab both the Shittiest New Poster and Best Shit Poster awards.

Conventional wisdom says you can't win both the same year but PP is proving them wrong. He's the Zeke Elliott of the WR.
 
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The only thing that matters is Nazis and christians are the same.
 
Worst thesis of all time. Stunningly idiotic.

The salt-right has always not only faked current news but also faked historical news. When reality doesn't support your ideas the rational approach is to create a make believe world and fly on wings of imagination in the fact free sky.
 
Worst thesis of all time. Stunningly idiotic.

The salt-right has always not only faked current news but also faked historical news. When reality doesn't support your ideas the rational approach is to create a make believe world and fly on wings of imagination in the fact free sky.
This is poetry imo
 
I understand that the term left and right comes from what side you sat on in a particular place in france at a particular time. If you want to define it today by this, then it would make no sense as the french revolution is long gone.

All I am doing is giving what left and right actually means now that we took the term from france.
When you look at my definition of left and right which is correct, the terms make sense.

Also, please learn something and read the DEFINITION FROM DIFFEN, right here, there words not mine.

"The fundamental differences between left-wing and right-wing ideologies center around the the rights of individuals vs. the power of the government. Left-wing beliefs are liberal in that they believe society is best served with an expanded role for the government. People on the right believe that the best outcome for society is achieved when individual rights and civil liberties are paramount and the role — and especially the power — of the government is minimized."

http://www.diffen.com/difference/Left_Wing_vs_Right_Wing

See how this makes sense. One side is the opposite of the other.

Hitler is not the opposite of Stalin.

If you understood it, it would not be such a mystery to you why the nazis are referred to as right wing. In the other thread you said you had never heard of a good rebuttal. Well here it is, History.

And WTF, we are talking about the NAZIS. We are specially not talking about just today. When is the magical line crossed that we use historically based terms for historical events and when we use your terms which only apply to today.

Here is a better explanation. The free market is considered right wing because by today standards it implies less or no radical change than a progressive agenda that is, you know, trying to use the govt. to change things.

But Saudi Arabia is still not left wing. Neither was Pinochet.

You complain that people are labeling the nazis right wing as a smear job, when it so appearent you are desperate to paint the right as the side of good and freedom and the left as evil/anti freedom. Adding to the irony is you telling us to just forget the history of these terms and focus on today when dealing with a 70 plus year old movement.

Even your DIFFEN site defines the nazis as "far right" (used for the german party and sometimes used for other far right groups) and defines socialism as something the puts the means of production in the hands of the workers, something the nazis don't even aim to do.
 
What's about with all the clickbait thread titles these days. Is Crave paying people to post here.

I always found trying to paint people as "Hitler-like" or equate people to Nazi's as being extremely disrespectful to those who were affected by the Nazis. It's nothing more than using those who experienced true suffering for the sake of political cheap shots.
 
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