The Myth of Pride HW Superiority Began and Ended with One Man

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Now here me out. After going through the Fedor UFC Hypemachine thread I got to thinking: when exactly did the shift in perception from UFC to Pride begin? In particular, the HW division?

Looking at Wiki Nog became the inaugural champ in 2001, but I am thinking that the shift in mentality happened after that. Pride was hella fun well before Nog became Champ, and we had a lot of UFC HWs jump ship to Pride for sheer awesomeness way before that. But people pay attention to belts and champions.

When Barnett beat Randy to become the undisputed HW champ in 2002, he failed a drug test and got stripped of the belt -- but he was still undefeated. Barnett ran to Japan to continue fighting, but when he made his much anticipated Pride debut he was stopped by one man: Mirko Crocop. Not once, but twice!

The first fight was a freak shoulder injury and was really weird seeing Barnett tap like that, but Mirko did well in the rematch.

Mirko just smashed the man who was technically the unbeaten UFC HW Champion.

Was this what definitively shifted the perceptions to Pride's HW division superiority? Or was it already considered the best division well before that? I can't remember too well. Some of the older fans here, I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.


Because if it were what caused the shift, it would be hilarious that, a few years later, it would be Mirko who shattered the perception entirely after GG kicked his head off following UFC's acquisition of Pride.
 
LOL how did this thread become about Stipe?
 
Well what happened Mirko? What happened to your legs?
 
No, Pride just had a overall stronger line up of heavyweights during that era.

With that said, in no way does that line up compare to the best heavyweights in the UFC today. Even with HW being one of the shallower divisions.
 
No, Pride just had a overall stronger line up of heavyweights during that era.

With that said, in no way does that line up compare to the best heavyweights in the UFC today. Even with HW being one of the shallower divisions.
I second that.
 
right at the top of the 10

Lol top 10 sub reels... Barnetto, Prime Nog, or Fedor would've exposed him on the ground lol.


Heck, not many Top 10 UFC HWs wouldve made Final Conflict of the 06GP.
 
Pride was the BEST because the announcer would always say the fighters names backwards!

SAKURABAAAAAA.......KAZUSHI

Sounds scarier!
 
No, Pride just had a overall stronger line up of heavyweights during that era.

With that said, in no way does that line up compare to the best heavyweights in the UFC today. Even with HW being one of the shallower divisions.


Lol You're clueless.


Pride Top HW's(All were in their prime and under 32):

Fedor
Barnett
Crocop
Big Nog
Werdum
Overeem
Aleks
Khar
Hunt


Pride's HW division is still by today's standards legendary.
 
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Lol top 10 sub reels... Barnetto, Prime Nog, or Fedor would've exposed him on the ground lol.


Heck, not many Top 10 UFC HWs wouldve made Final Conflict of the 06GP.
Stipe in a ring would be bad news, he'd expose their striking.
 
MW Hendo turned Fedor into a stuffed thanksgiving turkey.

Stipe would have massacred him.
 
Stipe in a ring would be bad news, he'd expose their striking.

Lol u wot m8? Even past his prime Barnett might still take him today... dude could give him a dirty boxing clinic.

And striking with Prime Crocop in a ring... lol stop it.
 
Because if it were what caused the shift, it would be hilarious that, a few years later, it would be Mirko who shattered the perception entirely after GG kicked his head off following UFC's acquisition of Pride.

What does "a few years later" have to do with what was happening at the time Cro Cop fought Barnett?

You didn't know that fighter ability changes over the course of time or what?
 
Pride was the BEST because the announcer would always say the fighters names backwards!

SAKURABAAAAAA.......KAZUSHI

Sounds scarier!
haha me too, I miss that. Gooooooooddridddggeee................. GARY
 
Lol You're clueless.


Pride Top HW's(All were in their prime and under 32):

Fedor
Barnett
Crocop
Big Nog
Werdum
Aleks
Khar
Hunt


Pride's HW division is still by today's standards legendary.

He's one of those guys who think fighters didn't cross train until atound10 years
 
MW Hendo turned Fedor into a stuffed thanksgiving turkey.

Stipe would have massacred him.


Well to be fair that was after Fedors mileage was up there after over a decade long career...


Mr. Skyscraper Struve played paddy cakes with Stipe's face, and he was under 30 :D:D:D
 
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