The moment that makes me think Anderson might be done.

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  1. EGarrett

    EGarrett Silver Belt

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    It wasn't the clowning KO, it wasn't the leg break...it was this:

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    Anderson has grabbed clinches on people for years, and gotten punched, hard, while doing it. In the past, he either ignored it or even laughed it off. Now, a chippy shot behind the ear makes his legs buckle.

    When I picture Anderson fighting now, I keep seeing this...and I wonder if GSP is right. Once your body can't withstand shots you're accustomed to simply ignoring, you can't fight your own style. Crazy as it sounds, this might be Nick Diaz by stoppage.
     
  2. surgeyou1

    surgeyou1 Welcome to the Machida Era...Part Deux

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    Yeah. Me too. That chin is never going to be the same.

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  3. Arm Barbarian

    Arm Barbarian Titanium Belt Platinum Member

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    You can't take shots (no matter HOW good your chin is) over the years and not eventually have it take an affect on you. Anderson has put his body thru a ton of punishment over the years, even in spite of being one of the greatest fighters ever. The wear and tear is catching up with an aging body.
     
  4. BrazilianDude

    BrazilianDude Gold Belt

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    Yeah, I think the same way, TS. As soon as this happened in the second fight my hopes were gone...
     
  5. standandtrade7

    standandtrade7 Blue Belt

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    You guys are too much.

    The guy is a mortal. He didn't see it coming. Have you ever been hit by something you didn't see coming?

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  6. Wadtucket

    Wadtucket Semi-professional hair historian Platinum Member

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    I agree. That was the most telling part of both fights. He is done.
     
  7. chunglii

    chunglii No Me Duele

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    Strikes like that cause most people to drop. But I agree that Anderson's ability to take strikes to the head is probably diminished, as is expected after a career like his in MMA.
     
  8. melvinj0

    melvinj0 Gold Belt

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    Could also have something to do with the fact that he was fighting an undefeated super skilled fighter.
     
  9. M Raid K

    M Raid K Black Belt

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    Anderson was standing on one leg while eating this shot. You can't absorb a strike if you have no base. The same thing is with the finishing punch in their first fight: Silva happened to stand in very awkward position leaning back and had no base. Even Mighty Mouse could KO him in this position.
     
  10. WalkenWouldOwn

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    Agreed. That was a strange and sad moment. I don't think Diaz will be able to do it, but I would be concerned against any big puncher he might fight next.

    Hell, Diaz can take a hell of a shot though so maybe. If he can turn this into a brawl and find Anderson's chin a couple times, who knows how he'll take them. Hoping that doesn't happen though, I am a fan of both guys but would not want the GOAT to go out losing to a WW
     
  11. chiefwiggum

    chiefwiggum Red Belt

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    Riveras shots are arm punches. Nothing behind them. Weidman wound up and smacked him behind the ear. The difference is huge.
     
  12. melvinj0

    melvinj0 Gold Belt

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    That's what makes me pretty excited for the fight. Niaz will probably push forward a lot and make it a really fun fight.
     
  13. clumseygenius

    clumseygenius Red Belt

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    I remember watching that and thinking he was out then hitting the boards later that night and chatting to people and them feeling the same thing. Shot's to the side & back-side of the head really throw you off and take a toll.
     
  14. Jew Jif Shoes

    Jew Jif Shoes Nullius in Verba

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    His chin is what I'm most concerned about going into the Diaz fight. Even if he's hesitant to kick, he should be a good enough boxer to pick Nick apart. Not to mention his clinch.

    But if Silva's chin has suffered a Chuck-like decline then his chances are greatly diminished.
     
  15. WalkenWouldOwn

    WalkenWouldOwn Steel Belt

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    You probably said the same thing after Chuck got brutally KTFO from Rich Franklin's baby punch from his weak arm. Chins do deteriorate. Yes, not seeing a punch coming is a huge factor but that was NOT a powerful shot regardless. At least Chuck ran into Rich's punch, but it still would not have KO'd him if his chin was not shot. Anderson's eyes rolling and legs giving out from that is not normal.

    Hopefully it was just a fluke and Anderson's chin isn't gone. But it's definitely concerning.

    Also the GIF you posted is a clean right hook to the chin with follow through. How is it relevant?
     
  16. sprucelees

    sprucelees Silver Belt

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    everyone's ability to take shots begin to drop
     
  17. Spycho

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    Was about to say this. Weidman is a beast.
     
  18. biscuitsbrah

    biscuitsbrah Red Belt

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    He was nearly Ko'd with that punch
     
  19. tenniswhiz

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    True, and Anderson is actually better for the wear than all his old Chuteboxe buddies, which isn't saying much.
    Can't imagine what they did to each other in the Chuteboxe glory days.
     
  20. Soul Rebel 2

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    Chris framed with his left arm, thats why he was able to hurt Anderson where others couldnt phase him- that and the fact that Anderson had diminished.
     

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