How do you think Mike and Ray will be remembered? For those who don't know, both brothers sadly passed away several years ago within days of each other and were very strong advocates of strength training and pioneers of HIT. I think Mike will be known as an intelligent curmudgeon, teetering on the brink of insanity (or totally embracing it), depending on who you ask. Ray was a bit more grounded obviously. Their training philosophies, while controversial helped me a great deal back in my serious lifting days - I doubt I could ever have achieved the kind of lifts I made w/o the help of Mike's guidance, I had telephone consultations with him back in '95-'96...very different dude - I could've done w/o hearing about Ayn Rand and him shouting "Arthur Jones is God!" though. Eccentric, you bet but their achievements and contributions have been immense imo. Opinions?