The Majority of Americans Have Very Reasonable Abortion Views

since the religious right has lost much of it's power, It still surprises me that more GOP supporters aren't FOR ABORTION.....

it's simple math, the more abortions a society has, the less kids born to parents that can't support them and thus will be mooching off taxpayers....

pay once, or every month for years?
Without seeing statistics I would guess a good chunk of children born to mothers denied abortions also engaged in use of government social services past the age of 18. I have no issue with social services. I take issue with those who want to claim they're pro life while once the child is boring wishing that child pull him/herself up by boot straps
 
Without seeing statistics I would guess a good chunk of children born to mothers denied abortions also engaged in use of government social services past the age of 18. I have no issue with social services. I take issue with those who want to claim they're pro life while once the child is boring wishing that child pull him/herself up by boot straps
they aren't aiming that view at the kid, but the parent that clearly chose to have a kid they can't afford w / a dad that's likely out of the picture

The kid isn't being held accountable, the parent is in their view.....
 
Without seeing statistics I would guess a good chunk of children born to mothers denied abortions also engaged in use of government social services past the age of 18. I have no issue with social services. I take issue with those who want to claim they're pro life while once the child is boring wishing that child pull him/herself up by boot straps
Can we abort them in third grade then if they’re falling behind
 
since the religious right has lost much of it's power, It still surprises me that more GOP supporters aren't FOR ABORTION.....

it's simple math, the more abortions a society has, the less kids born to parents that can't support them and thus will be mooching off taxpayers....

pay once, or every month for years?
I don't think the religious right has lost any power.

If anything, they've become a more homogeneous voting block, which makes them a stronger force than ever in electoral politics.

Without seeing statistics I would guess a good chunk of children born to mothers denied abortions also engaged in use of government social services past the age of 18. I have no issue with social services. I take issue with those who want to claim they're pro life while once the child is boring wishing that child pull him/herself up by boot straps
There is a very strong mathematical argument-- summarized and popularized in the book Freakanomics-- that the falling violent crime trend in the US from the late 1990's onward correlates more strongly to the legalization of abortion a generation earlier than it does to any other single factor.
 
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I don't think the religious right has lost any power.

If anything, they've become a more homogeneous voting block, which makes them a stronger force than ever in electoral politics.


There is also an very strong mathematical argument-- summarized and popularized in the book Freakanomics-- that the falling violent crime trend in the US from the late 1990's onward correlates more strongly to the legalization of abortion a generation earlier than it does to any other single factor.
Perhaps, but wouldnt that mean another GOP candidate selected during the primaries?
 
To be clear their position is we should let that baby live. That’s what we’re calling them assholes for.

On the scale of one to hitler I give it a banana

all kinds of unreasonable things
 
Without seeing statistics I would guess a good chunk of children born to mothers denied abortions also engaged in use of government social services past the age of 18. I have no issue with social services. I take issue with those who want to claim they're pro life while once the child is boring wishing that child pull him/herself up by boot straps
Protect the fetus, once born they are on their own.
 
Perhaps, but wouldnt that mean another GOP candidate selected during the primaries?

That's a good point. You would think so. This could be an area where the 17 person primary field really f'd up all normal probabilities.

But whatever their feelings during the primaries, the religious right rallied around Donald Trump bigly in the general election-- they are the most homogeneous voting bloc of any religious group by far.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/how-the-faithful-voted-a-preliminary-2016-analysis/
 
That's a good point. You would think so. This could be an area where the 17 person primary field really f'd up all normal probabilities.

But whatever their feelings during the primaries, the religious right rallied around Donald Trump bigly in the general election-- they are the most homogeneous voting bloc of any religious group by far.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/how-the-faithful-voted-a-preliminary-2016-analysis/
And he did pander for like 5 seconds, which Trump likely wouldnt have done had he not thought it necessary as hes clearly not spiritual haha
 
surprised it is not higher. There can be biblical arguments for abortion and it never addressed in NT or OT, the idea that life begin at conception is also kind of new thing. Not abortion on demand but you got to be heartless and probably some older ´religious´ man to be anti abortion completely. I seen you guys post some stories of some crazy american politicians who agaisnt abortion even for rape or extreme circumstances.

lol not even catholic wild brazil or mexico is that low on the empathy scale. Most people can reason it should be allowed for medical, health, rape reasons.
 
And he did pander for like 5 seconds, which Trump likely wouldnt have done had he not thought it necesarry as hes clearly not spiritual haha
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There very face of sincerity...
 
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There very face of sincerity...

the crazy thing about the NT is that he could legit be a christian and go to heaven while you go to hell. Trump could even find religious texts which support much of his behavior except the cheating on wives and maybe some other shady stuff but it okay because he can be forgiven because jesus.
 
If men could get prego, abortions would be available at 7-11.

From the OP: Interestingly, there was no statistical difference between men and women in overall support of abortions-- except that men were about 5% more likely to support late stage abortions.
 
A recent Gallup poll confirms:

60% of Americans feel abortion should be legal during the first trimester.

This number plummets to only 28% who feel abortion should be legal during the second trimester.

Just 13% of Americans-- a tiny minority-- feel that abortion should continue to be legal in the third trimester.

83% of Americans support abortion in the first trimester if the mother's life is in danger. 77% support abortion in the first trimester for cases of rape.

Interestingly, there was no statistical difference between men and women in overall support of abortions-- except that men were about 5% more likely to support late stage abortions.

This poll shows that public opinion on abortion has remained stable over time. It has a 4 pt margin of error.

https://www.npr.org/2018/06/13/6192...abortion-rights-wanes-as-pregnancy-progresses

My takeaways:
  • The "pro life" vs. "pro choice" terms that this debate usually gets framed under do not adequately reflect the feelings of 60%+ Americans.
  • I'm comforted in the fact that most Americans are not hardliners on this issue.
  • The 13% who support third trimester abortion for any reason should get together with the 17% who don't support first trimester abortion even when the mother's life is in danger. These two groups should move to an island somewhere and leave the rest of us alone.

13% is not what I would call a tiny minority. That is a significant percentage.
Are those same people considered as part of the 60% and 28%?
 
How many support Euthanizing the Mother and Aborting the Infant at the same time?
 
Lol @ 23% of people who want to force women to carry rape babies. Way too many nutjobs for my liking.
i know a woman who was raped, carried the baby full term, gave it up for adoption at birth, and now that rape child has reunited with his step siblings and they have a great relationship.

I'm not a bible thumper, but to be advocating for/ promoting abortion in 2018 is insane to me.
 
The words 'im a christian" usually precede moral judgements and folks tellin you how you outta be livin

So do the words, "I'm vegan." Or, "I'm socialist." Truth is, pretty much every stripe of American loves moral judgments and telling others how to live. I'm not excusing Christians, but it is funny how they get singled out so often when others are as bad or worse.
 
since the religious right has lost much of it's power, It still surprises me that more GOP supporters aren't FOR ABORTION.....

it's simple math, the more abortions a society has, the less kids born to parents that can't support them and thus will be mooching off taxpayers....

pay once, or every month for years?

You're surprised GOP supporters dont directly trade life for money?
 
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