The House of Saud Do-Boy, Trump vetoes Yemen bill

[EradiatedHaggis]

Actually it doesn't..

Actually it does, look again. Also, outrage already posted. I get that you want Orange Man Bad confirmation, but I dont placate useless snowflakes.

 

[My Spot]

I criticized Obama for drone bombing everyone.

Prove it.

I feel anytime criticism is launched at Trump, the Trump bots, immediately but Obama or but Hillary the topic and never address it.

Sucks getting a taste of your own medicine, huh?

Also still waiting for your claim that you knew about Obama droning an underage American in 2011.

 

[7437]

He was pressured into those. He was catching all sorts of heat. And amazingly, it all calmed down once he chose them.

Then the republicans played ball for him. It was a shit display all around.

I believe his bogus collusion investigation was pressure by isreal firsters to pressure trump to do things like move the embassy, declare Jerusalem, almost overthrow Assad, stay in syria, lick bibis balls etc......

Things. Started going much much better domestically for trump when he made these moves. I think he picked up on the not so subtleness of that.

He would have been impeached on trumped up bogus charges if he would have just unilaterally got us out of Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and Yemen like he wanted.

Remember the media firestorm about that? The media got the call from those who run our foreign policy and shill they did. It was like the world was gonna end if we left the Middle East.

He’s gotta deliver on protecting our border and gotta deliver on helping America jobs with better trade deals. Cuz he just fucked america on a major campaign pledge.

Lol. He doesn't have to deliver on a campaign pledge. Any of them. He will just whine about Democrats, socialism and immigrants. And how unfair life is for him. It worked before, and pretty clearly is his strategy again.

 

[K1levelgrappler]

Actually it does, look again. Also, outrage already posted. I get that you want Orange Man Bad confirmation, but I dont placate useless snowflakes.

Ok I looked again and it's all the same shit. The extent of your opinions on US policy in Yemen is that democrats are hypocritical because Obama did bad things too which you post anytime there is criticism directed towards Trump. That's the entirety of your position on the issue.

 

[IGIT]

Where were your tears back then when those that actually care already knew about it and hated it?

hio EradiatedHaggis,

i thought it was a bit of a problem, even "back then".

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/what-does-the-us-owe-the-citizens-of-yemen.3026527/

at the end of the day, it really comes down to two things;

1) if you feel that the US should be engaging Iran in a proxy war, then you're down with our prodigious arms sales to the Saudis. if you feel otherwise, then maybe you're less sanguine about our involvement there.

2) when Mr. Obama was POTUS, the Saudis would have gotten their weaponry one way or another. if the US closed up shop, then they'd have gone to the French...or the Chinese and since the United States is the P4P king of military exports on the planet, why shouldn't we sell'm what they want?

its one of the global contributions that we, as a nation, specialize in. our stock and trade, if you will.

i mean, in theory, what's good for Boeing, Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, etc....is good for America. right?

its a conundrum.

- IGIT

 

[Trotsky]

First off I must say that I am very very impressed by the fact you are actually trying again after failing on such a massive scale. Normally you either run away to another thread or never try to address anything directly again.

Yes, I do this when I feel that the argument has run its course and that the other person has disqualified his or her argument. We are nearing that point now. I don't worry whatsoever that anyone would read up to this point and think your attempted points have been anything but laughably self-defeating.

Republicans lost control of congress having 2 wars on the books...came back into power with conflicts in Libya, Syria, Yemen and Somalia ongoing. Started by Democrats. You are nothing more than a pandering buffoon.

...we are not engaged in any conflicts in Libya, Yemen, or Somalia. We are in Syria. And none of those conflicts were started by Democrats. You're hysterically grasping and it's making me sad to watch.

I quoted ONE strike while providing a link to all of the strikes, which is long, including a link in a previous post about Obama's 26,000+ bombs dropped in one year...and the blockade was started by whom? Obama.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockade_of_Yemen

A blockade passed by Democrats.

There was no blockade passed by the United States, let alone by Democrats. Passing something means a congressional vote. Good lord. Civics.

Yet Amazingly enough, Enough Democrats either voted against ending it or didnt vote at all a year before it magically became popular to be against what they started...

https://theintercept.com/2018/11/16/yemen-war-house-resolution/

The Democrats overwhelmingly supported that bill. Republicans overwhelmingly opposed it.

From the very first sentence in that article: Republican leaders on Capitol Hill moved yet again on Wednesday to block a vote to wind down U.S. military support for the war.

Again, your self-owning is spectacular.

Again showing your ignorance. The definition is provided by the US military itself and states that any strike by the military is a direct military action and you claimed it can only be one if its against the military of a nation. Them attacking Al-Qaeda, A Yemen street-sweeper or a Chinese contortionist on crack has nothing to do with it, its if the military is doing it or not.

Direct MILITARY action.

That is direct action against Al-Qaeda, genius.

 

[EradiatedHaggis]

Ok I looked again and it's all the same shit. The extent of your opinions on US policy in Yemen is that democrats are hypocritical because Obama did bad things too which you post anytime there is criticism directed towards Trump. That's the entirety of your position on the issue.

Wait, So you "discovered' that my post history shows that I hold Democrats to the same standards as "Trump" and you dont like it because I dont just blame Trump...and this angers you.

 

[EradiatedHaggis]

hio EradiatedHaggis,

i thought it was a bit of a problem, even "back then".

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/what-does-the-us-owe-the-citizens-of-yemen.3026527/

at the end of the day, it really comes down to two things;

1) if you feel that the US should be engaging Iran in a proxy war, then you're down with our prodigious arms sales to the Saudis. if you feel otherwise, then maybe you're less sanguine about our involvement there.

2) when Mr. Obama was POTUS, the Saudis would have gotten their weaponry one way or another. if the US closed up shop, then they'd have gone to the French...or the Chinese and since the United States is the P4P king of military exports on the planet, why shouldn't we sell'm what they want?

its one of the global contributions that we, as a nation, specialize in. our stock and trade, if you will.

i mean, in theory, what's good for Boeing, Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, etc....is good for America. right?

its a conundrum.

- IGIT

A conundrum indeed. Even more so when you factor in how our alliance to Saudi Arabia is directly tied to our opposition of Iran since Iraq is now a broken nation that cannot oppose Iran in terms of being a stopgap.

As for the arms sales. I am mostly against sales to other nations but realities dictate we make our allies strong enough to make our enemies not want to try to expand. No excuse for Yemen though.

 

[44nutman]

The Trump White Knight brigade charging into this thread with their But Obama tipped lances.

 

[K1levelgrappler]

Wait, So you "discovered' that my post history shows that I hold Democrats to the same standards as "Trump" and you dont like it because I dont just blame Trump...and this angers you.

Technically you don't blame Trump or Obama for Yemen. You just post but but Obama anytime somebody criticizes Trump because you think they cancel each other out.

 

[EradiatedHaggis]

Yes, I do this when I feel that the argument has run its course

You do it from the start because you know you have nothing and are about to be made to look bad, again, and you hate it.

...we are not engaged in any conflicts in Libya, Yemen, or Somalia. We are in Syria.

Nope. Deflect stopped at the start. These conflicts were started by Obama and voted on by Democrats in office making them exactly like the thing you claim only Republicans are like AND Democrats caused an uproar over Trump wanting to pull out of Syria and Afghanistan about a year ago...you are wrong. Deal with it.

There was no blockade passed by the United States, let alone by Democrats. Passing something means a congressional vote. Good lord. Civics.

Oh no...did I just make you admit that Obama had the U.S.A block Yemen on his own, without the approval of Congress and have ZERO Democrats do anything to stop him? No outrage, no voting, no move to impeach him, nothing? Why God, WHY WOULD THEY DO NOTHING WHEN THEY LOVE LIFE!

Again, your self-owning is spectacular.

You appear to be typing while looking in a mirror.

This is a direct action against Al-Qaeda, genius.

And still a direct military action in Yemen, Derpfaced Mcgee. Along with the 100+ other direct military strikes in Yemen, hence the Wikipedia page about US military strikes IN YEMEN page...

 

[IGIT]

How come y'all didn't care before though?

hi there Rex is Puerto Rican,

it was discussed here, on this board.

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/what-does-the-us-owe-the-citizens-of-yemen.3026527/

many of the folks who posted felt discomfiture with the US arms dealing to the Saudis - who were in turn pummeling Yemen into rubble with their airstrikes.

- IGIT

 

[EradiatedHaggis]

Technically you don't blame Trump or Obama for Yemen. You just post but but Obama anytime somebody criticizes Trump because you think they cancel each other out.

WHY, WHY WONT HE HATE ORANGE MAN?!?

He says whats happening in Yemen is bad, but he wont only talk about Trump!

 

[My Spot]

hi there Rex is Puerto Rican,

it was discussed here, on this board.

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/what-does-the-us-owe-the-citizens-of-yemen.3026527/

many of the folks who posted felt discomfiture with the US arms dealing to the Saudis - who were in turn pummeling Yemen into rubble with their airstrikes.

- IGIT

You just helped make my point. Nothing from 44nutman or k1grappler in that thread...

 

[IGIT]

hi ho EradiatedHaggis,

A conundrum indeed. Even more so when you factor in how our alliance to Saudi Arabia is directly tied to our opposition of Iran since Iraq is now a broken nation that cannot oppose Iran in terms of being a stopgap.

aye.

i see it as a bit of a box that President Obama was in. he needed the Saudis to help put Iran in a box (and it worked, resulting in the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action), and the Saudis wanted weaponry - and they were going to get it one way or another. c'est la vie.

As for the arms sales. I am mostly against sales to other nations but realities dictate we make our allies strong enough to make our enemies not want to try to expand. No excuse for Yemen though.

i respect that you feel that the US shouldn't sell military weaponry to other countries (i'd prefer that also myself), but the reality is that this is what we do. the US is king of global arms sales (Russia is second).

your philosophical stance is akin to asking France to stop exporting wine or Germany to stop exporting cars. its a heavy lift, my friend.

- IGIT

 

[IGIT]

You just helped make my point. Nothing from 44nutman or k1grappler in that thread...

hiya again Rex,

but am i allowed to discuss the topic, and be critical of current day policy?

also, to be fair to 44nutman and k1, i posted that thread four years ago.
in 2015 most of the threads in the War Room probably related to mass shootings (it was a banner year for them), TONS of Black Lives Matter, how terrible Obama was, and maybe some stuff about the refugee crises.

- IGIT

 

[K1levelgrappler]

WHY, WHY WONT HE HATE ORANGE MAN?!?

He says whats happening in Yemen is bad, but he wont only talk about Trump!

Have you even said what's happening in Yemen is bad? Maybe a half-hearted condemnation you snuck into one of your walls of but but Obama?

It's obvious you have no actual opinions on the conflict so really you couldn't hate either orange man or black man for it. Your angle is exactly this: you're a Trumpster and you see people criticizing Trump who is now conducting policy that is substantially worse than the status quo, which was already awful to start with, and you want to give him a mulligan for it and ignore any ownership he may have of the current policy by deflecting and talking about Obama.

You're a fucking weasel.

 

[andnowweknow]

Could we ever discuss Trump and his disastrously shitty polices without the Trumpsters vomiting, "But what about Obama!!!" all over the fucking thread?

No

 

[VivaRevolution]

The Saudi Yemen conflict has been going on for some 10 years mate and Obama was killing them with Drones like it was a video-game...Where were your tears back then when those that actually care already knew about it and hated it?

You know, BEFORE orange man bad became a thing.

I smell just Trump hate here.

So your saying Trump is as bad as Obama?

Progress.

 

[Fanu]

The Saudi Yemen conflict has been going on for some 10 years mate and Obama was killing them with Drones like it was a video-game...Where were your tears back then when those that actually care already knew about it and hated it?

You know, BEFORE orange man bad became a thing.

I smell just Trump hate here.

umm so what is your stance on US government backing Saudis in Yemen conflict ?

this conflict/war has been going on for years now and Trump has no intent on handling it any differently to previous administrations considering he is backing Saudis