The GOAT of every Country, Region, State

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  1. CoffeeAndBeer

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    List of every GOAT by Country, Region, State
    (based on place of birth)

    Help fill the list.
    Who's not listed? Which should be changed?


    Best in each category, noted in green.
    Fighters raised elsewhere from an early age, noted by (r.Elsewhere)

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    ASIA

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    Afghanistan -- Siyar Bahadurzada
    Armenia -- Karo Parysian
    Azerbaijan --
    Bahrain --
    Bangladesh --
    Bhutan --
    Brunei --
    Cambodia --
    China --
    Georgia --
    India --
    Indonesia -- Fransino Tirta
    Iran -- Gegard Mousasi (raised in.Netherlands)
    Iraq -- Randa Markos* (G4G)
    Israel --
    Japan -- Taknori Gomi or Kazushi Sakuraba
    Jordan --
    Kazakhstan -- Kairat Akhmetov
    Kuwait --
    Kyrgyzstan -- Valentina Shevchenko* (G4G)
    Laos --
    Lebanon --
    Malaysia --
    Maldives --
    Mongolia -- Jadamba Narantungalag
    Myanmar (Burma) -- Aung La Nsang
    Nepal --
    North Korea --
    Oman --
    Pakistan --
    Palestine --
    Philippines -- Eduard Folayang
    Qatar --
    Russia (Asia) -- Andrey Koreshkov or Alexander Schlemenko
    Saudi Arabia --
    Singapore --
    South Korea -- Chan Sung Jung or Dong Hyun Kim
    Sri Lanka --
    Syria -- Jarjis Danho
    Taiwan --
    Tajikistan --
    Thailand -- Rambaa Somdet
    Timor-Leste --
    Turkey -- Alptekin Özkılıç
    Turkmenistan --
    United Arab Emirates --
    Uzbekistan --
    Vietnam -- Cung Le (r.California/U.S.A.)
    Yemen --​

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    EUROPE

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    Albania --
    Andorra --
    Austria -- Gerald Turek
    Belarus -- Andrei Arlovski
    Belgium -- Tarec Saffiedine
    Bosnia and Herzegovina -- Mirsad Bektić
    Bulgaria -- Blagoi Ivanov
    Croatia -- Mirko Filipovic
    Cyprus -- Costas Philippou
    Czech Republic --
    Denmark -- Martin Kampmann
    Estonia -- Dennis Smoldarev
    Finland --
    France -- Cheick Kongo
    Germany -- Daniel Weichel
    Greece --
    Hungary --
    Iceland -- Gunnar Nelson
    Ireland -- Conor McGregor
    Italy -- Alessio Sakara
    Kazakhstan --
    Kosovo --
    Latvia -- Misha Cirkunov
    Liechtenstein --
    Lithuania -- Marius Žaromskis
    Luxembourg --
    Macedonia --
    Malta --
    Moldova --
    Monaco --
    Montenegro --
    Netherlands -- Bas Rutten
    Norway -- Joachim Hansen
    Poland -- Joanna Jędrzejczyk* (G4G)
    Portugal --
    Romania --
    Russia (Euro) -- Khabib Nurmagomedov
    San Marino --
    Serbia --
    Slovakia -- Attila Végh or Ivan Buchinger
    Slovenia --
    Spain --
    Sweden -- Alexander Gustafsson
    Switzerland --
    Ukraine -- Fyodor Emelianenko (r.Russia)
    United Kingdom -- Alistair Overeem (r.Netherlands)
    Vatican City --

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    NORTH AMERICA

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    Antigua and Barbuda --
    Bahamas -- Kimbo Slice Yves Edwards
    Barbados --
    Belize --
    Canada -- Georges St Pierre
    Costa Rica --
    Cuba -- Hector Lombard
    Dominica --
    Dominican Republic --
    El Salvador -- Ivan Menjivar
    Grenada --
    Guatemala --
    Haiti -- Yves Jabouin
    Honduras --
    Jamaica -- Uriah Hall
    Mexico -- Jessica Aguilar* (G4G)
    Nicaragua --
    Panama --
    St. Kitts and Nevis --
    St. Lucia --
    St. Vincent and The Grenadines --
    Trinidad and Tobago -- Gary Goodridge
    United States of America -- Jon Jones

    DEPENDENT TERRITORIES --
    Anguilla (UK) -- Carlos Newton
    Aruba (Netherlands) --
    Bermuda (UK) --
    Bonaire (Netherlands) --
    British Virgin Islands (UK) --
    Cayman Islands (UK) --
    Clipperton Island (France) --
    Curaçao (Netherlands) --
    Greenland (Denmark) --
    Guadeloupe (France) --
    Martinique (France) --
    Montserrat (UK) --
    Puerto Rico (USA) -- Jorge Rivera
    Saba (Netherlands) --
    Saint Barthélemy (France) --
    Saint Martin (France) --
    Saint Pierre and Miquelon (France) -- Denis Kang
    Sint Eustatius (Netherlands) --
    Sint Maarten (Netherlands) --
    Turks and Caicos Islands (UK) --
    US Virgin Islands (USA) --

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    SOUTH AMERICA

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    Argentina -- Santiago Ponzinibbio
    Bolivia --
    Brazil -- Anderson Silva
    Chile -- Pablo Villaseca
    Colombia --
    Ecuador --
    Guyana --
    Paraguay --
    Peru -- Luis Palomino
    Suriname -- Melvin Manhoef
    Uruguay --
    Venezuela -- Maximo Blanco

    DEPENDENT TERRITORIES --
    Falkland Islands (UK) --
    French Guiana (France) --
    South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands (UK) --


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    OTHER

    Angola -- Demarte Pena
    Australia -- George Sotiropoulos
    Cameroon -- Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou
    Congo (Zaire) -- Christian M'Pumbu
    South Africa -- Trevor Prangley
    New Zealand -- Robert Whittaker or Mark Hunt

    DEPENDENT TERRITORIES:
    Guam (U.S. territory) -- Joe Taimanglo


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    Keys and Notes:
    GOAT = Greatest in that particular State/Region/Country
    Others = Other notable fighters
    *G4G = Gender-for-Gender recognizing female fighters
    Honorary = Notable contributors to MMA
     
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  2. CoffeeAndBeer

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    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

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    The West
    • Alaska -- Bristol Marunde
    • Arizona -- Don Frye(?)
    • California -- Dan Henderson - Bruce Lee, Gene LeBell
    • Colorado -- Benson Henderson (r.Washington)
    • Hawaii -- BJ Penn
    • Idaho -- Jared Rosholt
    • Montana -- Keith Jardine
    • Nevada -- Frank Mir
    • New Mexico -- Carlos Condit
    • Oregon -- Chael Sonnen
    • Utah -- Scott Jorgensen (r.Idaho/Alaska)
    • Washington -- Randy Coutur
    • Wyoming -- Nate Marquardt
    The Midwest
    • Illinois -- Matt Hughes
    • Indiana -- Miguel Angel Torres
    • Iowa -- Pat Miletich
    • Kansas -- Bobby Lashley
    • Michigan -- Dan Severn
    • Minnesota -- Sean Sherk
    • Missouri -- Tyron Woodley
    • Nebraska -- Jake Ellenberger
    • North Dakota --
    • Ohio -- Rich Franklin
    • South Dakota -- Brock Lesnar
    • Wisconsin -- Anthony Pettis
    The Northeast
    • Connecticut -- Brennan Ward
    • Maine -- Tim Sylvia
    • Massachusetts -- Kenny Florian
    • New Hampshire --
    • New Jersey -- Frankie Edgar
    • New York -- Jon Jones
    • Pennsylvania -- Eddie Alvarez
    • Rhode Island --
    • Vermont --
    The South
    • Alabama --
    • Arkansas -- Alan Belcher
    • Delaware -- Din Thomas
    • Florida -- Jorge Masvidal
    • Georgia -- Ken Shamrock (r.California)
    • Kentucky -- Demetrious Johnson (r.Washington)
    • Louisiana -- Daniel Cormier
    • Maryland -- Sara McMann (*G4G)
    • Mississippi --
    • North Carolina -- Jason Miller
    • Oklahoma -- Johnny Hendricks
    • South Carolina -- Stephen Thompson
    • Tennessee -- Rampage Jackson
    • Texas -- Joseph Benavidez (r.New Mexico)
    • Virginia -- Brandon Vera
    • West Virginia -- Brian Bowles

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    BRASIL

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    Norte

    • Acre --
    • Amapá --
    • Amazonas -- Jose Aldo
    • Rondônia --
    • Roraima --
    • Pará -- Helio Gracie, Carlos Gracie
    • Tocantins --
    Nordeste
    • Alagoas --
    • Bahia -- Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
    • Ceará -- Thiago Alves
    • Maranhão -- Zuluzinho
    • Paraíba -- Luiz Firmino
    • Pernambuco -- Raphael Assuncao
    • Piauí --
    • Rio Grande do Norte -- Renan Barao
    • Sergipe --
    Centro Oeste
    • D.F.-Brasília -- Antonio Silva
    • Goiás --
    • Mato Grasso --
    • Mato Grosso do Sul --
    Sudeste
    • Espírito Santo -- Ronaldo Souza
    • Minas Gerais -- Rousimar Palhares
    • Rio de Janeiro -- Vitor Belfort
    • São Paulo -- Anderson Silva
    Sul
    • Paraná -- Wanderlei Silva
    • Rio Grande do Sul -- Fabricio Werdum
    • Santa Catarina -- Junior dos Santos

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    JAPAN

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    Hokkaidō
    • Hokkaido --
    Tōhoku
    • Akita -- Kazushi Sakuraba
    • Aomori -- Masakatsu Funaki, Mitsuyo Maeda
    • Fukushima -- Kazuyuki Fujita
    • Iwate --
    • Miyagi --
    • Yamagata -- Ryo Chonan
    Kantō
    • Chiba -- Kazuo Misaki or Hiroyuki Takaya
    • Gunma -- Kyoji Horiguchi
    • Ibaraki -- Hayato Sakurai
    • Kanagawa -- Takanori Gomi
    • Saitama --
    • Tochigi --
    • Tokyo -- Genki Sudo
    Chūbu
    • Aichi -- Hatsu Hioki
    • Fukui --
    • Gifu -- Ikuhisa Minowa
    • Ishikawa --
    • Nagano --
    • Niigata -- Yuki Kondo
    • Shizuoka -- Shinya Aoki
    • Toyama --
    • Yamanashi --
    Kansai
    • Hyogo -- Dokonjonosuke Mishima
    • Kyoto -- Masakatsu Ueda
    • Mie --
    • Nara -- Satoru Kitaoka
    • Osaka -- Yoshihiro Akiyama
    • Shiga -- Tsuyoshi Kosaka
    • Wakayama --
    Chūgoku
    • Hiroshima -- Kazuhiro Nakamura
    • Okayama -- Megumi Fujii (*G4G), Kiyoshi Tamura
    • Shimane --
    • Tottori --
    • Yamaguchi --
    Shikoku
    • Ehime -- Yasuhiro Urushitani
    • Kagawa -- Yoshiro Maeda
    • Kochi --
    • Tokushima -- Kano Jigoro, Satoru Sayama
    Kyūshū
    • Fukuoka --
    • Kagoshima -- Katsunori Kikuno
    • Kumamoto --
    • Miyazaki --
    • Nagasaski -- Mizuto Hirota
    • Oita --
    • Okinawa -- Mitsuhisa Sunabe
    • Saga --

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    CALIFORNIA
    aka MMA Mecca

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    The Bay Area
    • Alameda Co -- Chris Camozzi
    • Contra Costa Co -- Ramsey Nijem
    • Marin Co --
    • Napa Co -- Jerry Bohlander
    • San Francisco Co -- Danny Castillo, Bruce Lee
    • San Mateo Co --
    • Santa Clara Co -- Josh Thomson
    • Solano Co -- Mark Muñoz* (born on U.S. base in Japan)
    • Sonoma Co --
    Central Coast
    • Monterey Co -- Cain Velasquez (r.AZ)
    • San Benito Co --
    • San Luis Obispo Co -- Tim Kennedy
    • Santa Barbara Co -- Chuck Liddell or Urijah Faber (r.Sacramento Metro/Placer Co)
    • Santa Cruz Co -- Luke Rockhold
    Los Angeles/So Cal
    • L.A. Co -- Dan Henderson (r.San Ber Co.), Gene LeBell
    • Orange Co -- Gilbert Melendez or Tito Ortiz
    • Riverside Co -- Ronda Rousey (*G4G), Cub Swanson
    • San Bernardino Co -- Bobby Green
    • Ventura Co -- Tony Ferguson (r.MI)
    Lower California
    • Imperial Co --
    • San Diego Co -- Dominick Cruz (r.AZ) or Robbie Lawler
    Sacramento Metro
    • El Dorado Co --
    • Placer Co --
    • Sacramento Co -- Tyson Griffin
    • Sutter Co --
    • Yolo Co --
    • Yuba Co --
    San Joaquin Valley
    • Fresno Co -- Cole Escovedo or Zoila Frausto (*G4G)
    • Kern Co --
    • Kings Co -- Chad Mendes
    • Madera Co -- Lavar Johnson
    • Merced Co -- Marvin Eastman
    • San Joaquin Co -- Nick Diaz
    • Stanislaus Co -- Michael McDonald
    • Tulare Co -- Joe Soto
    Sierra/East
    • Alpine Co --
    • Amador Co --
    • Calaveras Co --
    • Inyo Co --
    • Mariposa Co --
    • Mono Co --
    • Tuolumne Co -- TJ Dillashaw
    Upper California
      • Butte Co --
      • Colusa Co --
      • Del Norte Co --
      • Glenn Co --
      • Humboldt Co --
      • Lake Co --
      • Lassen Co --
      • Mendocino Co --
      • Modoc Co --
      • Nevada Co --
      • Plumas Co --
      • Shasta Co --
      • Sierra Co --
      • Siskiyou Co --
      • Tehama Co --
      • Trinity Co --

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    RUSSIA

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    • Central -- Mikhail Ilyukhin, Anatoly Kharlampiyev
    • Far East -- Vasili Oshchepkov
    • Northern Caucaus -- Khabib Nurmagomedov
    • Northwest -- Sergei Kharitonov
    • Siberia -- Andrey Koreshkov or Alexander Schlemenko
    • Southern --
    • Ural --
    • Volga -- Oleg Taktarov, Viktor Spiridonov
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    CANADA

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    • Alberta -- Jordan Mein
    • B.C. -- Rory MacDonald
    • Manitoba -- Joe Doerksen
    • New Brunswick -- Ryan Jimmo
    • New & Lab --
    • NW Territories --
    • Nova Scotia -- TJ Grant
    • Nunavut --
    • Ontario -- Mark Hominick
    • P.E. Island --
    • Quebec -- Georges St Pierre
    • Saskatchewan --
    • Yukon --
    Canada Notes:
    Carlos Newton was born in Anguilla a territory of the U.K.
    Gary Goodridge was born in Trinidad and Tobago

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    UNITED KINGDOM


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    • England --
      • East Midlands -- Dan Hardy
      • East of England -- Liam McGeary
      • London -- Alistair Overeem tied w/Bisping? (r.Netherlands)
      • North East -- Ross Pearson
      • North West -- Michael Bisping tied w/Overeem?
      • South East -- Linton Vassell
      • South West -- Brad Scott
      • West Midlands -- Tom Breese
      • Yorkshire & Humber --
    • Northern Ireland -- Norman Parke
    • Scotland -- Joanne Calderwood (*G4G)... and/or... Stevie Ray
    • Wales -- Jack Marshman
    U.K. Notes:
    - Michael Bisping was born in U.K. area of Cyprus; raised in North West, England
    - Paul Daley was born in London; raised in East Midlands, England
    - Jimi Manuwa was born in the Sacramento, California, U.S.A.; raised in the U.K. (somewhere?)


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    Keys and Notes:
    GOAT = Greatest in that particular State/Region/Country
    Others = Other notable fighters
    *G4G = Gender-for-Gender recognizing female fighters
    Honorary = Notable contributors to MMA
     
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  3. SirKratos

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    Austria- Mairbek Taisumov

    Turkey-Alptekin Ozkilic

    Israel-Noad Lahat?

    India- Jaideep Singh?

    Dominican Republic- Alex Garcia

    Cyprus-Costas Philippou

    Lithuania- Marius Zaromskis

    Latvia-Misha Cirkunov

    Greece- Anthony Christoudolou ? Lol

    Argentina- Santiago Ponzinibbio
     
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  4. milenss

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    You could have written "Best fighter of each country."

    Too much people use too much this word GOAT and it has no meaning.

    Btw.. Fedor is the best Russian as well. Or if you don't like it this way, you can write that Igor Vovchanchyn is the best Ukrainian. Khabib can't hold a candle to Sergei Kharitonov's career at this point. So he's not the best Russian.
     
  5. Hagelslag2

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    Rambaa Somdet for Thailand.

    I do think you have to be clearer on what basis you decide which people to represent a country. Overeem doesn't consider himself British and has always represented the Netherlands, regardless of which flag the UFC uses in the tale of the tape, and Mousasi considers himself Dutch-Armenian, doesn't have an Iranian passport and might not even have an Armenian passport anymore either.
     
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    I like the idea but that does not make any sense to categorize best brazilian fights according to their home state.. So Aldo is the best fighter in the Amazonas... great.

    I think you could have done a ranking by continent :

    best in America, Europe, Asia etc.. And then in each one the best by countries or, in the case of the US, the states
     
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    Bahrain = Frankie Edgar
     
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    Also, I would say that Rory McDonald is as worthy of mention as Alan Belcher or Din Thomas- why not add a province or two for Canada?

    This might be the case for other countries too.
     
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    Finland: Anton Kuivanen, Karja Kankaanpaa or Sauli Heilimo. Makwan with a win over Wilkinson takes the honor. Hopefully we can produce better talent in the future, there are some decent prospects like Aleksi Nurminen and Janne Elonen-Kulmala.
     
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    Meh.... I represent there,he represents this,she represents there. And some represent multiple places.

    Too arguable and open to discussion.

    Where they were born, on the other hand, is a clear fact and a good basis for this topic.
     
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    Australia = Robert Whittaker
     
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    Teemu Packalen too.

    But Makwan is Iraqi
     
  13. Aranha21

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    Costas Phillipou - Cyprus
    Alessio Sakare - Italy?

    Also I think Overeeem is a better fighter than Bas, he deserves Holland
     
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    I meant to say Greatest of All Time, so that's how I posed it. Saying "best" could insinuate the best currently, so you would have to specify "best of all time" which is the same as using "GOAT," so there you go.

    Fyodor was born in the Ukraine and raised in Russia. See how I went to the trouble to note it (r.Russia).

    I considered Sergei, but went with Khabib. Khabib is undefeated. Sergei has 5 losses... and for his entire career, he has 3 wins over Top 10 ranked HWs. I'd like to hear from more people on that one.
     
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    King of Pancrase and UFC HW champion. I think Bas has this one on lock.
     
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    loisestrad Gold Belt Platinum Member

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    He's listed under UK.
     
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    Also, instead of putting the UK in one - you should have it - England - Bisping, Wales - ?, Scotland - Joanne Calderwood and Northern Ireland - Norman Parke?.

    Good thread, though, thanks.
     
  18. CoffeeAndBeer

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    *By place of birth* right in the OP isn't clear enough?
    I just edited it to red, so it's more clear.

    And... with fighters who were raised in other Countries/States... I make mention of the other State/Country they were raised in. Bro, the bases were covered.

    P.S.
    The Brian Stann's (Japan/U.S.A.) and Michael Bisping's (Cypus/U.K.) are the rare exceptions; not noted in the OP. Fighters born, geographically, on foreign soil, but technically part of another country.
     
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  19. Hagelslag2

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    Sorry, I didn't see that.
     
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    Wins over Kharitanov, Belfort, Lesnar, Werdum, JDS >> a robbery win over Randleman and a career fighting smaller fighters under strange rules in Japan. Overeem also did a hell of a lot more in Kickboxing.

    Would you really pick Bas to beat Reem?
     

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