The French National Anthem is savage

[Teppodama]

It's true that historically, over many centuries, the French have shown themselves to be fierce and stubborn warriors. The notion that they are cowards comes from their poor showing and sad collapse against the Germans in 1940.

However, on what are you basing your view that European nations have a lot of "spirit to fight"? I don't see it.

Because you just don't breed that out of a people in a couple of generations. If nothing else, you have nations like Poland, Hungary, Ukraine, etc that always seem ready to bang. The Irish seem to still have some fire Belfast Accord be damned. I be there are even some Swedes back in their hills that still keep a sharp axe handy.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

Because you just don't breed that out of a people in a couple of generations. If nothing else, you have nations like Poland, Hungary, Ukraine, etc that always seem ready to bang. The Irish seem to still have some fire Belfast Accord be damned. I be there are even some Swedes back in their hills that still keep a sharp axe handy.

The Eastern European countries that experienced socialist oppression for decades certainly have some fight to them, but France? Sweden? Maybe, and I certainly hope so. Nature abhors a vacuum, and people unwilling to fight for themselves is a political vacuum.

 

[Fugazy]

It will be changed within the decade, probably.

There has been plenty of controversy about it already in the past few years, among the mentally ill:

https://qz.com/1320059/la-marseillaise-frances-national-anthem-is-causing-tension-once-again/

https://www.thelocal.fr/20140514/marseillaise-france-racism-taubira

https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-27444750

https://www.independent.co.uk/voice...efore-you-sing-it-at-wembley-to-a6737796.html

Whatever it is, I'm sure it will sound beautiful when it is blared from the Mosques in Arabic between the calls to prayer.

[smull1]

 

[Fugazy]

Not to mention how brutal the Nazi retaliations to French Resistance activity. I was at the WW2 museum and they had some French Resistence artifacts that were really cool.

Fun fact, New Orleans plotted to send an ex pirate to rescue Napoleon and bring him here on a schooner said to be the fasted in the world but he died days before departure.

Hell the Frenchmen here caused the first rebellion on US soil against the Spanish which resulted in Spain sending an Irish Don to put them in their place.

He captured the Six Frenchmen responsible (one died by bayonet wound before execution) and 250 feet from where I'm sitting now he had them executed. He offered them blindfolds and they refused, he even offered to pardon the youngest, the nephew of Jean Baptiste Le Moyne, Sieur de Beinville (the founder of the city) and he refused. Saying he "fought with his comrades he will die with his comrades"

Even after, 100 feet from my seat, Countless duels took place between Frenchmen. A slight offense led to a slap in the face and a pull of a swordcane. For death is a better fate than an affront to ones honor.

I mean the US heavily relied on the French Armada to save them in the revolution.

A lot of anti French sentiment is due to them being smarter than Americans and not falling for the Iraq War lies. "Muh freedom fries"

French history is one of elegant violence.

That last paragraph just isn't true. Anti-French sentiment was passed down from the greatest generation due to their role in WWII. Plus there is a general sentiment that broadly speaking the French are elitists and snobs, which is held by many people in Europe and around the world, not just the US.

I'm not sure how old you are, but people were mocking Frenchies and calling them pussies well before fuckery in the mideast of GWB and Cheney. That "freedom fry" shit was a fad that most people saw straight through and only a few idiots actually held onto.