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i wrestled for years and i could never get this move down... i knew how to do it, it is in fact a very simple take down... but i could never get my body to go through the motion... after the duck under i would high crotch and try to throw the opponent which is fine... but then i was in a vulnerable state facing away from my opponent... FINALLY i realized its more of a forward dump than an over shoulder throw and i have since been able to properly execute it and roll into a more favorable side control position... however i have found, as many of you had no doubt already known, that even trying to set up for a firemans carry is just asking for a guillotine or front choke... or worse a crucifix if you are really terrible... that being said... does the firemans carry have a place in MMA? can it be effectively utilized in a fight and whats the best way to prevent being caught ina choke when going for the fireman's carry?