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James Mulheron accepts one-year suspension for USADA violation

https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/1/...cepts-one-year-suspension-for-usada-violation

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Tested positive for clomiphene and hydroxyclomiphene last November.

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According to sherdog, he's obviously clean.
 
How fat would these guys be if they wasn't training for a living
 
in b4 "see that means Fedor was on roids because he never had an elite physique" comment
 
Well why wasnt he champ like jones? I heard clomphene makes you GOAT.
 
Well why wasnt he champ like jones? I heard clomphene makes you GOAT.
ah. its one of them others use and arnt as good, so that means him using isnt a big deal, kind of guys.
 
Well why wasnt he champ like jones? I heard clomphene makes you GOAT.

Straw man.

PEDs make you better than you would have been otherwise. No one says they can make anyone the champ or the GOAT.

Jones is an amazing fighter in many ways. But it is hard to argue that he would have been as good as he is without PEDs. He still might have been champ. He might even have attend GOAT status. But we can't say that for sure. All we know is that Clean Jones would have been beaten by PED Jones, because PED Jones is a better fighter.
 
Listen to me, athletes use PED's. This is a 39 year old man built like an M-1 Abrams tank. The guy is not natty.

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Cormier is a god damn olympian and has been tested a hundred times in his career I'm assuming. If you think he isn't clean, you at least need evidence. Posting a picture of a career wrestler with a big upper body and fat midsection isn't evidence.
 
Cormier is a god damn olympian and has been tested a hundred times in his career I'm assuming. If you think he isn't clean, you at least need evidence. Posting a picture of a career wrestler with a big upper body and fat midsection isn't evidence.

Wrestlers and coaches all over the world will tell you that you don't wrestle to the Olympics clean, its almost impossible. Go watch Icarus for example. The Russians had a state sponsored doping program for their wrestlers, that's how important PED's are in Olympic wrestling. The German's also have had a state sponsored PED program. The fact DC was an Olympic wrestler is a strike against him, not for him. Then after he was done with that he went to Strikeforce and started spiking 6'4" HW's on their heads like they were paperweights. If you think he's natty fine, I don't buy it.
 
Wrestlers and coaches all over the world will tell you that you don't wrestle to the Olympics clean, its almost impossible. Go watch Icarus for example. The Russians had a state sponsored doping program for their wrestlers, that's how important PED's are in Olympic wrestling. The German's also have had a state sponsored PED program. The fact DC was an Olympic wrestler is a strike against him, not for him. Then after he was done with that he went to Strikeforce and started spiking 6'4" HW's on their heads like they were paperweights. If you think he's natty fine, I don't buy it.

You can bring up any assumption you want, the point is, you need evidence. Maybe it's the lawyer in me. I'm not going to sit here and say a guy used PEDs when he literally has no evidence against him. This isn't Barry Bonds who never tested for roids but has an insane amount of evidence against him (receipts, admitted use, massive growth, player accounts, tested positive for amphetamines, etc.)

You are referencing Daniel Cormier who has zero sketchy past and has never failed a test. He's never looked to be in great physical shape (fat wise) and routinely fought against bigger men.
 
Listen to me, athletes use PED's. This is a 39 year old man built like an M-1 Abrams tank. The guy is not natty.

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Not saying there isn't a possibility he's not on something but my dad is 60 and has a better physique

The eye test is still bro science
 
You can bring up any assumption you want, the point is, you need evidence. Maybe it's the lawyer in me. I'm not going to sit here and say a guy used PEDs when he literally has no evidence against him. This isn't Barry Bonds who never tested for roids but has an insane amount of evidence against him (receipts, admitted use, massive growth, player accounts, tested positive for amphetamines, etc.)

You are referencing Daniel Cormier who has zero sketchy past and has never failed a test. He's never looked to be in great physical shape (fat wise) and routinely fought against bigger men.

Like I said, if you think he's natty fine, I don't have a problem with that but you really should look into Olympic wrestling. Its a HUGE strike against him. Guys at the Olympic level of wrestling use PED's. DC comes from a PED world.
 
I remember the first time I saw this guy and thought, "why is this LW fighting at HW?" You have to have a huge appetite and eat a bunch of crap to maintain that physique while training hard.
 
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