The disconnect between foreign people’s opinions vs their leaders and media

EyeOfNewt said:
Source for what you quoted?
What about the ownership?
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That link is the source. It's an article on their front page.
Serge Dassault wasn't a centrist. The Dassault Group didn't buy the paper and decide to change their political stance.
 
Ruprecht said:
That link is the source. It's an article on their front page.
Serge Dassault isn't a centrist. The Dassault Group didn't buy the paper and decide to change their political stance.
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It’s centrist in the sense that it is critical of both the left and right. They’re keen on secularism for example, which is traditionally a leftist ideal. Also, Serge Dassault is dead.
 
KAZSoliloquy said:
"By the start of World War II, Le Figaro had become France's leading newspaper. After the war, it became the voice of the upper middle class, and continues to maintain a conservative position.

In 1975, Le Figaro was bought by Robert Hersant's Socpresse. In 1999, the Carlyle Group obtained a 40% stake in the paper, which it later sold in March 2002. Since March 2004, Le Figaro has been controlled by Serge Dassault,[9] a conservative businessman and politician best known for running the aircraft manufacturer Dassault Aviation, which he inherited from his father, its founder, Marcel Dassault (1892–1986). Dassault owns 80% of the paper, by way of its media subsidiary Groupe Figaro.[9]

In 2006, Le Figaro was banned in Egypt and Tunisia for publishing articles allegedly insulting Islam.[18][19]"

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Funny how there isn't s single mention of it being a conservative papering that whole thing. Almost like you didn't even read it
 
EyeOfNewt said:
It’s centrist in the sense that it is critical of both the left and right. They’re keen on secularism for example, which is traditionally a leftist ideal. Also, Serge Dassault is dead.
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Serge bought the paper, and was a right-wing politician. It's still owned by the Dassault group. Their stance really hasn't shifted during that ownership. Predominantly of course they are concerned with right-wing economics. Secularism has been in place in France long enough to have conservative support. They have to be pretty far right (and a particular variety) to want some sort of Catholic renaissance. Even Le Penn advocates secularism.
 
tonni said:
Yeah, I was being very mild.


C'est dans l'article. https://www.lefigaro.fr/vox/monde/e...-qui-veut-faire-disparaitre-l-ancien-20201113

Tu parles quand meme le Français, donc tu peux traduire facilement, non?
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Believe me, Le Figaro is centrist. If it was strictly right, they would never sell it so well in French Canada. Hell, Radio Canada, which is as far left as you can often rely on Le Figaro. Just because @Ruprecht posted a writer’s critical opinion of the US democrats, that doesn’t mean Le Figaro hasn’t expressed equally critical stories/opinions of the american right. Anyway, Radio-Canada would never cite right garbage. But they cite Le Figaro all the time. Example: http://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle...s-attentats-djihadistes-bataclan-stade-france

if Radio-Canada relied on right wing papers they would get crucified.

edit: here is a piece from Le Figaro that is highly critical of Trump
https://www.lefigaro.fr/internation...ut-pas-d-immigres-venant-de-pays-de-merde.php
 
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EyeOfNewt said:
Believe me, Le Figaro is centrist. If it was strictly right, they would never sell it so well in French Canada. Hell, Radio Canada, which is as far left as you can often rely on Le Figaro. Just because @Ruprecht posted a writer’s critical opinion of the US democrats, that doesn’t mean Le Figaro hasn’t expressed equally critical stories/opinions of the american right. Anyway, Radio-Canada would never cite right garbage. But they cite Le Figaro all the time. Example: http://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle...s-attentats-djihadistes-bataclan-stade-france

if Radio-Canada relied on right wing papers they would get crucified.

edit: here is a piece from Le Figaro that is highly critical of Trump
https://www.lefigaro.fr/internation...ut-pas-d-immigres-venant-de-pays-de-merde.php
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That's not highly critical at all. Compare that to the article I linked to or any of that same author's other pieces.
Le Figaro isn't a populist tabloid like the Daily Mail, Bild or the New York Post, but that's far from making them centrist.
They are very similar to The Australian in editorial position (which is also NewsCorp, but not a tabloid).
Not that I'm familiar with Radio-Canada, but they also cite The Australian, so it's not like they avoid citing right-wing papers.
You can guarantee if it had been a poll on Le Monde, the results would have looked very different.
 
pretty much every non-spastic person in the world thinks you're a bunch of spazzy spazzes for not conceding

polls like this only keep the spacky fuckers in a bubble, they need to be dragged kicking and screaming back to reality
 
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