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i was going to say I can't believe you guys are using a cartoon as a basis of technique.
 
o yea?
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I hate anime man. I cannot even begin to tell you how many times my last name has been supplanted with Freeza or however you spell it. If Jack was still around he would probably beat your asses.
 
I hate anime man. I cannot even begin to tell you how many times my last name has been supplanted with Freeza or however you spell it. If Jack was still around he would probably beat your asses.

lol my bad bro
 
i was going to say I can't believe you guys are using a cartoon as a basis of technique.

As an animation major I can't stand manga. Although I do enjoy a few of the classics.

It's funny you would say that though. I go to school for animation. A few of my friends there train in MMA. Well a few of those dorks will over hear us talking about training and they will try to relate if to anime or a video game. I swear the next time someone does that I will Thai kick them in the head.
 

As an animation major I can't stand manga. Although I do enjoy a few of the classics.

It's funny you would say that though. I go to school for animation. A few of my friends there train in MMA. Well a few of those dorks will over hear us talking about training and they will try to relate if to anime or a video game. I swear the next time someone does that I will Thai kick them in the head.

how? I'm just curious. Are they like, "Oh, so and so used that move in volume 123 of some manga shit." I can just imagine a Napoleon Dynamite looking dude talking about fighting like he's some expert.
 
how? I'm just curious. Are they like, "Oh, so and so used that move in volume 123 of some manga shit." I can just imagine a Napoleon Dynamite looking dude talking about fighting like he's some expert.

I was hoping someone would ask.

For example my BJJ training buddy and I were talking about BJJ and Mauy Thai. This kid comes up and starts relating it to moves from Tekken, and some anime or game I have never heard of. I looked at him and ass much of an asshole as I could be, I told him that we are talking about real fighting and to fuck off. I still make fun of him every chance I get.

That isn't the only time that has happened either.
 
I was hoping someone would ask.

For example my BJJ training buddy and I were talking about BJJ and Mauy Thai. This kid comes up and starts relating it to moves from Tekken, and some anime or game I have never heard of. I looked at him and ass much of an asshole as I could be, I told him that we are talking about real fighting and to fuck off. I still make fun of him every chance I get.

That isn't the only time that has happened either.

Hadoken his ass off and finish with a Tiger Knee.
 
For example my BJJ training buddy and I were talking about BJJ and Mauy Thai. This kid comes up and starts relating it to moves from Tekken, and some anime or game I have never heard of. I looked at him and ass much of an asshole as I could be, I told him that we are talking about real fighting and to fuck off. I still make fun of him every chance I get.

I went to Film School at a school that also taught Animation. I did a Master Class in Stunt Choreography for like a year and let me tell you, Animation students didn't catch on to ANYTHING. I'd show them things about how they're fooled in the movies by certain camera tricks and angles, and how NOT to make their fighting scenes look shitty or completely unbelievable, deer in the headlights stares are what I usually got back.
 
I went to Film School at a school that also taught Animation. I did a Master Class in Stunt Choreography for like a year and let me tell you, Animation students didn't catch on to ANYTHING. I'd show them things about how they're fooled in the movies by certain camera tricks and angles, and how NOT to make their fighting scenes look shitty or completely unbelievable, deer in the headlights stares are what I usually got back.

I wouldn't doubt it considering how most animation kids just want to remake anime crap. They don't study live action or good animation. I wish we had that class offered at my school. We have video, but I don't think we have anything like that.

I try to study and learn as much as I can. I want to know exactly why something is considered good or bad.
 
Well, I'll give these pointers I gave from that class, basic points of contention:

- Don't get too close to the action. People will get disinterested in an action sequence when they can't tell what the Hell is going on or just how the guy got hurt. Close-ups of arms and legs, or facial expressions then a reaction shot to a technique suck.

- Don't have too much crap going on in the scene for the action to be highlighted. The last fight scene between Liam Neeson and Christian Bale in the most recent Batman flick is a perfect example. I still have no idea who did what to whom to this day.

- Too much posing is unrealistic, even if they're supposed to be Masters at fighting, as is too much slow-motion.

- While I'm down-playing special effects and such, camera angles are your friends. The first-person point-of-view is excellent when used properly.

- Mixing action sequences and emotional hooplah is usually done poorly and should be avoided if it breaks the rhythm of the scene. That's what ruined the last fight scene in Rocky Balboa.

- While camera angles are good, excessive camera movement sucks, that's what broke up action in Cinderella Man.

The idea is to pull the audience off of their seats and into the action. Fucking up these things puts people right back into their seats and reminds them they're in fantasy land.
 
I don't care what anyone says. I liked the camera movements of 300. They remind me of the fight scenes from Brotherhood of the Wolf.

I know what you mean it's kind of like the difference between most Asian martial arts films VS American films.
 
Well the Hong Kong scene back in the 80's and early 90's was ground-breaking. The American scene just blows because Americans have to oversensationalize everything, and remove substance for sake of budgeting. Ironically some of the best fight scenes you'll EVER see are in two places. One is low-budget Chop Saki flicks where because they had no other selling points, the action had to be phenominal. See the Hong Kong scene from the 70's.

Then in the more obscure flicks that Americans only get wind of through rumor usually. I was one of the first people with Jet Li's Fist of Legend in the area I lived in, and the original Drunken Master II which was re-marketed here as "The Drunken Master". However, the ORIGINAL Drunken Master was great simply for Hwang Jiang Lee's performance. There's also a great one with Jet Li and Sammo Hung called "Kung Fu Master" that's very good even though it's supposed to be sensational. Yuen Biao's flicks are excellent as well, Magnificent Butcher being a stand-out. The modern Iron Monkey made in the 90's was another great one, and unlike Jackie Chan of late (hiring good performers and not putting them to good use), there's a flick where Donny Yuen's talents are put to thorough use. In Once Upon A Time In China II the last fight scene is Donny versus Jet Li.
 
Well the Hong Kong scene back in the 80's and early 90's was ground-breaking. The American scene just blows because Americans have to oversensationalize everything, and remove substance for sake of budgeting. Ironically some of the best fight scenes you'll EVER see are in two places. One is low-budget Chop Saki flicks where because they had no other selling points, the action had to be phenominal. See the Hong Kong scene from the 70's.

Then in the more obscure flicks that Americans only get wind of through rumor usually. I was one of the first people with Jet Li's Fist of Legend in the area I lived in, and the original Drunken Master II which was re-marketed here as "The Drunken Master". However, the ORIGINAL Drunken Master was great simply for Hwang Jiang Lee's performance. There's also a great one with Jet Li and Sammo Hung called "Kung Fu Master" that's very good even though it's supposed to be sensational. Yuen Biao's flicks are excellent as well, Magnificent Butcher being a stand-out. The modern Iron Monkey made in the 90's was another great one, and unlike Jackie Chan of late (hiring good performers and not putting them to good use), there's a flick where Donny Yuen's talents are put to thorough use. In Once Upon A Time In China II the last fight scene is Donny versus Jet Li.

holy shit, do you know everything? lol
 
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