the cocaine use is a cover up. The real story is Jones potential PED use

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  1. killakillakilla

    killakillakilla Brown Belt

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    Victor Conte is tearing Dana White apart on Twitter - https://twitter.com/victorconte

    This thread up in the stickys -

    http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f2...d-maskers-19-1-t-e-discussion-thread-2907419/

    Dr. Johnny Benjamin - When I see a very low T/E ratio I'm concerned that exogenous (outside the body) T & epi- T are being administered

    Victor Conte - IMO. CIR testing of all 3 Jon Jones urine samples needed. Reduced T & E levels + T/E ratios could indicate exogenous testosterone use

    http://www.bjpenn.com/jones-test-re...mal-hormone-levels-along-cocaine-metabolites/

    http://mmajunkie.com/2015/01/anti-d...rone-readings-cir-test-needed-on-jones-sample
     
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    lilwayne209** Orange Belt

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    hahaha jones is on the juice legacy forever tarnished like armstrong
     
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    Perrichet Tinpot Belt

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    It seems like a real possibility
     
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    FootstompShonie Silver Belt

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    The whole point of the sticky is so people don't make more threads about it.

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  5. ackileez

    ackileez ANALINGUSing a PAWG

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    Watching Dana on Fox talking about it just screams cover up.

    This is the craziest start to a year of UFC
     
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    Worth investigating at least.
     
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    I remember back in 2011 before any DUI or any of that shit, I said to someone that he'll fall in the eyes of the public very hard because I could sense his bullshit. Can't remember what it was exactly though that made me think this, but never did I think it would be like this.
     
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    No way UFC sends the results in
     
  9. killakillakilla

    killakillakilla Brown Belt

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    Yea I know but I think this particular story deserves more attention than its getting. This is bigger than Jones using cocaine.
     
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    that te ratio is very suspicious
     
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    when overeem failed his drug test his t/e ratio was above the 14:1. however jones ratio is LESS than the normal 1:1. why are people assuming jones is juicing when his ratio is not above normal?
     
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    ironfist05 Silver Belt

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    well, if anybody knows about juicers, it's conte
     
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    because his testosterone went from that of a 9 year old girl, to a grown man in a matter of days.
     
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    i don't quite follow, but that Dr. Benjamin cat who comments on medicine, health, and mma suggested that abnormally low levels indicate some exogenous hormones. so maybe on the downside of a cycle the body's production drops abnormally low after being artificially boosted. but i don't know if i understood him.
     
  16. Khabib Fan

    Khabib Fan Physics is Religion

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    Because its abnormal to have a .29/1 ratio thats 71% the only thing that comes close to having levels that close is like many have stated if he had a testicle removed at 90%

    Most people who cycle take an estrogen booster/blocker/shield however you want to say it the intentions are the same its to keep your t/e levels at a normal 1/1. If his are an unprecedented .29/1 something is wrong with his body and needs immediate medical attention, or he's coming down from a cycle. The only way to fully know is to do further test.

    Im not accusing jones or defending him just getting information out.
     
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    ZuffaExecutive Red Belt

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    Heres the thing,them tests are fucked,they were supposed to test for certain things and didnt.

    Who is to say they didnt mix samples up,screw up the actual tests?all his samples show diff test/epi,which could mean he is cycling,or it could mean the tests werent carried out properly,and none of it is blood tests which are more accurate then urine.

    All in all,he got busted for coke which he shouldnt of been tested for.Was he probably using peds? yes probably,but Gsp probably was as well,wand definitely was ,hendricks? most likely was as well.
     
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    great username for that post haha
     
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    Khabib Fan Physics is Religion

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