International The Chinese have landed: Huawei announces first 5G smartphone chip

[ShinkanPo]

Based on what I have read on the News this morning, looks like The USUK,and Canada will impose more restrictions on Huwawei. Hmmn sounds like Mr.Xi Jin Ping is about to get BTFO. This is worrisome as a collapsing Chinese economy would have a ripple effect on the region and things could get very ugly.

 

[SammyPops]

Oh, I think I should let everyone on the Dog know about this because you guys probably didn't see it:
The FBI, CIA and NSA say American citizens shouldn't use Huawei phones
Apple was doing this in China. Tit for tat.

Still, a worthwhile caveat unless you want the Chinese government spying on everything you do in addition to every one else, but even more remorselessly, and without any fear of reprisal from the laws or watchdogs or public backlash that protect you from companies like Google, Apple, and Facebook.

In fact, you should be wary of every Chinese-headquartered phone company at this point.

Its strange how people in the west do not see China's (govt controlled) businesses for what they are .

 

[method115]

I know this is slightly unrelated but I needed a new MP3 player because the old android phone I was using (s4) finally died on me. The screen stopped displaying anything. I like using a phone for MP3 players because I can download Jefit and track my workouts. Don't want to use my personal phone though because my phones always fall out of my pockets at the gym.

So I start looking for android based MP3 players and find nothing. Start looking for the cheapest MP3 player I can find and I find a few but now I wont be able to track my progress and I'm to lazy to do it after the gym or remember what I lifted. So just randomly I google cheap android phones and no kidding I found 1 for $10 from straighttalk. I didn't even need to purchase a plan with them I bought the phone for $10 no tax\shipping and got it Wednesday. I'm seriously impressed by how well it is working as an MP3 player and it only has 1GB of RAM but still is plenty fast enough for me. If I knew I could do this I would have got rid of the S4 a long time ago because it was running like shit and it had double the RAM.

 

[NoDak]

Yeah, the CEO said that. I wasn't expecting this year. He also said it is a game changer in a lot of things as you said. Thanks for the info.

You sound like you would make a good teacher btw. Very passionate about what you know and love to share it.

The industrial high tech cluster just south of the university corridor makes it pretty easy to glean a lot of information from, especially when you have acquaintances who work in the industry. There are two dozen semiconductor firms with major operations here, Intel has more manufacturing capacity here than anywhere else and will be using extreme ultraviolet lithography for their 7 nm chips when the new (and third operational) fabrication plant opens in a couple years. The leading semiconductor market research firm is headquartered here.

Hmm, my best friend works for Microchip Technology (MCHP) which is headquartered here. The founder, chairman and chief executive is a former Intel employee; been to his $15 million mansion up in Paradise Valley lol, dude's cool as fuck. As an aside it's probably a good time to buy (@ElKarlo again), microcontrollers are going to grow significantly and have really versatile applications in myriad end markets. MCHP is world leading designer and manufacturer of them, they keep a strong balance sheet and are always looking for ways to improve cost structure.

 

[RockstarChris]

i like how they can throw these letters and numbers out there to people and sell them products based on them. so 5g is 5 gigs per minute right? Nope. But hey, who cares as long as you have your $1200 iphone

 

[Madmick]

I know this is slightly unrelated but I needed a new MP3 player because the old android phone I was using (s4) finally died on me. The screen stopped displaying anything. I like using a phone for MP3 players because I can download Jefit and track my workouts. Don't want to use my personal phone though because my phones always fall out of my pockets at the gym.

So I start looking for android based MP3 players and find nothing. Start looking for the cheapest MP3 player I can find and I find a few but now I wont be able to track my progress and I'm to lazy to do it after the gym or remember what I lifted. So just randomly I google cheap android phones and no kidding I found 1 for $10 from straighttalk. I didn't even need to purchase a plan with them I bought the phone for $10 no tax\shipping and got it Wednesday. I'm seriously impressed by how well it is working as an MP3 player and it only has 1GB of RAM but still is plenty fast enough for me. If I knew I could do this I would have got rid of the S4 a long time ago because it was running like shit and it had double the RAM.

Well, i'm glad that worked out for you, but anything that isn't an iPod Nano for a fitness mp3 isn't competitive, IMO. I'm huge and I still learned that the hard way even before smartphones got so big it became impractical to shove them in a shoulder-strap harness. It's doable, but it isn't pleasant after the third mile.

6th Gen 16GB is GOAT.

 

[Shoemaker]

Oh, I think I should let everyone on the Dog know about this because you guys probably didn't see it:
The FBI, CIA and NSA say American citizens shouldn't use Huawei phones
Apple was doing this in China. Tit for tat.

Still, a worthwhile caveat unless you want the Chinese government spying on everything you do in addition to every one else, but even more remorselessly, and without any fear of reprisal from the laws or watchdogs or public backlash that protect you from companies like Google, Apple, and Facebook.

In fact, you should be wary of every Chinese-headquartered phone company at this point.

As someone who has fallen victim to Chinese IP theft on more than one occasion, fuck them properly.

 

[method115]

Well, i'm glad that worked out for you, but anything that isn't an iPod Nano for a fitness mp3 isn't competitive, IMO. I'm huge and even I learned that the hard way even before smartphones got so big it became impractical to shove them in a shoulder-strap harness.

6th Gen 16GB is GOAT.

Yea that's what I was going to get originally but I really wanted to be able to use my Jefit app in the gym. I'll admit carrying the phone around can be a pain in the ass though. It's just so useful to have a timer in between sets and record my lifts on the spot.

When I'm at the gym in my office I just place my phone on a nearby window and it's fine. I'm the only one there at that time and no one is stealing shit in this building. When I have to go to my other office though I have to go use a regular $10 gym and I can't just leave my phone lying around.

 

[NoDak]

lol @ paper tigers

Based on what I have read on the News this morning, looks like The USUK,and Canada will impose more restrictions on Huwawei. Hmmn sounds like Mr.Xi Jin Ping is about to get BTFO. This is worrisome as a collapsing Chinese economy would have a ripple effect on the region and things could get very ugly.

As someone who has fallen victim to Chinese IP theft on more than one occasion, fuck them properly.

It's edging ever closer to BTFO Time. Get The Strap!

 

[ElKarlo]

@NoDak thanks for the info
will do my due diligence . Was going to buy dell, JK but I'm open to suggestions

 

[ShinkanPo]

I hate it that the tech industry in my country is Chinese and even the locally owned telco are using the Huwawei hardware.

 

[Cuauhtemoc]

Based on what I have read on the News this morning, looks like The USUK,and Canada will impose more restrictions on Huwawei. Hmmn sounds like Mr.Xi Jin Ping is about to get BTFO. This is worrisome as a collapsing Chinese economy would have a ripple effect on the region and things could get very ugly.

I hope the Chinese collapse but I think it's optimism on the US part. Of course China will not surpass the US right now but they're making advances on their own now, not just stealing and their government is just a lot more capable at the moment to capitalize on the situation. I mean, the US government isn't even open due to a $5 billion disagreement. They will also not collapse due to Huawei, Huawei will still make huge amounts of money even if they lose out to Qualcomm in the US.
Hope they don't nuke the Philippines to show their strength.

 

[ShinkanPo]

I hope the Chinese collapse but I think it's optimism on the US part. Of course China will not surpass the US right now but they're making advances on their own now, not just stealing and their government is just a lot more capable at the moment to capitalize on the situation. I mean, the US government isn't even open due to a $5 billion disagreement. They will also not collapse due to Huawei, Huawei will still make huge amounts of money even if they lose out to Qualcomm in the US.
Hope they don't nuke the Philippines to show their strength.

They gonna Steal our Jerbs!

 

[NoDak]

That's pretty audacious by the US and I actually think brazen. Nobody really cares because it's 'just' China, but these are mafia methods.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...der-to-restrict-chinese-telecoms?srnd=premium

Rumors have abounded that the Trump administration would target Chinese telecom companies with an executive order to ban their U.S. sales. Reuters reported in December that Trump would consider an order declaring a national emergency related to the firms.

Some U.S. companies are preparing for a possible executive order by the Trump administration in the next few weeks that could inflict serious harm on Huawei, perhaps making it impossible for the company to operate, according to James Mulvenon, a China specialist formerly for the Rand Corp. who now works for defense-contractor SOS International of Reston, Virginia.

“The maximal version is that they would have a death sentence for Huawei like they threatened to do to ZTE," the Chinese network-equipment supplier that President Trump spared last year from a threatened cutoff from crucial U.S. parts. “The minimal version is that Huawei will be banned from sales in the U.S.”

 

[JDragon]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...der-to-restrict-chinese-telecoms?srnd=premium

Rumors have abounded that the Trump administration would target Chinese telecom companies with an executive order to ban their U.S. sales. Reuters reported in December that Trump would consider an order declaring a national emergency related to the firms.

Some U.S. companies are preparing for a possible executive order by the Trump administration in the next few weeks that could inflict serious harm on Huawei, perhaps making it impossible for the company to operate, according to James Mulvenon, a China specialist formerly for the Rand Corp. who now works for defense-contractor SOS International of Reston, Virginia.

“The maximal version is that they would have a death sentence for Huawei like they threatened to do to ZTE," the Chinese network-equipment supplier that President Trump spared last year from a threatened cutoff from crucial U.S. parts. “The minimal version is that Huawei will be banned from sales in the U.S.”

Regarding sales in the US, I guess that is a US thing, but forcing companies to cut out Huawei worldwide if they wanna do business in the US?

"Nice merger plan you got there. Wouldn't it be a pity if something happened to it?"

 

[NoDak]

Regarding sales in the US, I guess that is a US thing, but forcing companies to cut out Huawei worldwide if they wanna do business in the US?

"Nice merger plan you got there. Wouldn't it be a pity if something happened to it?"

What is being hinted at is that the US may just crush Huawei itself altogether. Bloomberg article is wrong, or rather misses a key point: the export ban was actually enacted, not just threatened. This was the immediate result of that and what I was referring to with my first post in the thread.

China's second largest manufacturer of telecom equipment and the number four smartphone maker in the United States, ZTE, is on its way to shutting down after the US government banned the company from doing business with American component suppliers, including chipmakers Qualcomm and Intel, both of which it relied heavily on for parts used its smartphones. The company's future may now depend on an appeal to modify or reverse the 7-year ban.

The news was revealed in a press release which noted that, "the major operating activities of the company have ceased".

ZTE's English-language homepage has also been stripped of much of its content, including its online store, apparently signifying that the company's days are numbered, at least in Western markets.

Huawei's computers and data centers run on Intel (US) processors while mobile handsets are dependent on radio frequency units made by Qorvo (US). Its 5G base stations incorporate components produced by Xilinx (US) while Texas Instruments (US) provides the analog semiconductors for them.

It also relies on Micron (US) for the memory chips that go into their smartphones although they could feasibly switch to SK Hynix (South Korea) on that front. The US tells SK not to and they won't. Between Samsung and SK Hynix, South Korea actually has 75% of the DRAM market with the only other major player being Micron - who China conspired to steal $9 billion worth in trade secrets from.

I point out the fact of market share - in what is currently the most lucrative semiconductor segment, no less - because this isn't just a matter of the US acting in an aggressive, anti-competitive manner out of spite. I happen to think Huawei a relatively self-capable firm (think about that, considering how much of an anti-CCP radical I am). They're paying the price for China's state directed policies, acts and practices on the whole.

 

[method115]

What is being hinted at is that the US may just crush Huawei itself altogether. Bloomberg article is wrong, or rather misses a key point: the export ban was actually enacted, not just threatened. This was the immediate result of that and what I was referring to with my first post in the thread.

China's second largest manufacturer of telecom equipment and the number four smartphone maker in the United States, ZTE, is on its way to shutting down after the US government banned the company from doing business with American component suppliers, including chipmakers Qualcomm and Intel, both of which it relied heavily on for parts used its smartphones. The company's future may now depend on an appeal to modify or reverse the 7-year ban.

The news was revealed in a press release which noted that, "the major operating activities of the company have ceased".

ZTE's English-language homepage has also been stripped of much of its content, including its online store, apparently signifying that the company's days are numbered, at least in Western markets.

Huawei's computers and data centers run on Intel (US) processors while mobile handsets are dependent on radio frequency units made by Qorvo (US). Its 5G base stations incorporate components produced by Xilinx (US) while Texas Instruments (US) provides the analog semiconductors for them.

It also relies on Micron (US) for the memory chips that go into their smartphones although they could feasibly switch to SK Hynix (South Korea) on that front. The US tells SK not to and they won't. Between Samsung and SK Hynix, South Korea actually has 75% of the DRAM market with the only other major player being Micron - who China conspired to steal $9 billion worth in trade secrets from.

I point out the fact of market share - in what is currently the most lucrative semiconductor segment, no less - because this isn't just a matter of the US acting in an aggressive, anti-competitive manner out of spite. I happen to think Huawei a relatively self-capable firm (think about that, considering how much of an anti-CCP radical I am). They're paying the price for China's state directed policies, acts and practices on the whole.

One of their execs was arrested in Poland for spying. They’re paying the price for something they themselves are participating in. I also think the person who was arrested for spying worked for the military. Ex cia was on Rohan talking about it. He said China is who we all need to be worried about.

 

[MicroBrew]

Its strange how people in the west do not see China's (govt controlled) businesses for what they are .

The Western governments are starting to give some attention. Should've done this many years ago, but corporate greed meant the Western establishments ignored the issue.

 

[ShinkanPo]

What is being hinted at is that the US may just crush Huawei itself altogether. Bloomberg article is wrong, or rather misses a key point: the export ban was actually enacted, not just threatened. This was the immediate result of that and what I was referring to with my first post in the thread.

China's second largest manufacturer of telecom equipment and the number four smartphone maker in the United States, ZTE, is on its way to shutting down after the US government banned the company from doing business with American component suppliers, including chipmakers Qualcomm and Intel, both of which it relied heavily on for parts used its smartphones. The company's future may now depend on an appeal to modify or reverse the 7-year ban.

The news was revealed in a press release which noted that, "the major operating activities of the company have ceased".

ZTE's English-language homepage has also been stripped of much of its content, including its online store, apparently signifying that the company's days are numbered, at least in Western markets.

Huawei's computers and data centers run on Intel (US) processors while mobile handsets are dependent on radio frequency units made by Qorvo (US). Its 5G base stations incorporate components produced by Xilinx (US) while Texas Instruments (US) provides the analog semiconductors for them.

It also relies on Micron (US) for the memory chips that go into their smartphones although they could feasibly switch to SK Hynix (South Korea) on that front. The US tells SK not to and they won't. Between Samsung and SK Hynix, South Korea actually has 75% of the DRAM market with the only other major player being Micron - who China conspired to steal $9 billion worth in trade secrets from.

I point out the fact of market share - in what is currently the most lucrative semiconductor segment, no less - because this isn't just a matter of the US acting in an aggressive, anti-competitive manner out of spite. I happen to think Huawei a relatively self-capable firm (think about that, considering how much of an anti-CCP radical I am). They're paying the price for China's state directed policies, acts and practices on the whole.

Looks like the BTFOing of WhineyThePoo is about to begin Trump wont get impeached looks to me the whole Mueller investigation is just one elaborate ruse that Trump is in on it too.

But then again its my tinfoli tinfoil crazy something

 

[RockstarChris]

Well, i'm glad that worked out for you, but anything that isn't an iPod Nano for a fitness mp3 isn't competitive, IMO. I'm huge and I still learned that the hard way even before smartphones got so big it became impractical to shove them in a shoulder-strap harness. It's doable, but it isn't pleasant after the third mile.

6th Gen 16GB is GOAT.

i use a sansa clip and can listen to anything i pirate off the internets, audiobooks, music, etc. All on a 1 inch by 1 inch device.

#winning
#tigerblood