Stop being such a baby. I gave you the link, you have given me nothing but your "word". That was before Sawamura's kickboxing days. He was a college-level point karate fighter, he was not even good enough to compete in the All-Japan tournaments. After realizing he was not good enough to beat the Thai fighter, he SWITCHED to Kickboxing. The information you posted in your OP is wrong, you need to be a man and admit as much. In your thread about Thai superiority of Japanese kickboxing, you have posted one bullshit video of Sawamura losing before he trained in kicboxing, one kickboxer losing to the best Thai fighter of all time in a "tournament" that you can't find any evidence of, one Blackbelt Magazine article about an amateur Muay Thai fighter beating an amateur point-karate fighter in the Philippines. You finally have a source of a 5-1 Thai v Japanese kickboxing fight in an article mentioning that all the Japanese Kickboxers had less than two years of experiencing while all the Thai boxers were veterans. Good link. I like the disqualification from "letting the opponent punch him in the face." And LOL at the anime being legitimate. If the anime is true, what is this thread about then? That means Japanese kickboxing > Muay Thai because that was the gist of the anime. If the point of this thread was to show that Japanese kickboxing promoter Osamu Noguchi was a losing and possibly dickish businessman, you are probably right, the article you sourced (which mentioned NOTHING about the Thais beating the Japanese) mentioned he was purposefully promoting a seaprate art when hiring Muay Thai teachers at his school, then you proved your point, you found a thread showing that the people got so wiled up that they fired bullets through the window and threatened to bomb the place. If you wanted to try and find some evidence of Thai superiority to Japanese kickboxers, you are floundering miserable.