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The "Best" vs The "GOAT"

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  1. JustBleed69 Touch-Butt Black Belt Yellow Card

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    I've always thought in some cases the GOAT and the Best could be separate.
    For example:

    Jose Aldo is by far the most accomplished Featherweight of All-Time, however he is clearly not the Best FW of all time as he lost to Conor, Holloway 2xs, and Volkanovski. The "Best" FW of all time is probably Conor or Volk at this point, but they havent accomplished nearly as much in the division as Aldo did.

    GOAT is more a measurement of accomplishment , which means Jose is the FW GOAT.

    How do you measure GOAT and what other instances of this can you think of, if any?
     
  2. Natural Order Naughty by Nurture

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    Ali is the boxing GOAT, SRR is the best to ever do it.
     
  3. AmericanMMA Purple Belt

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    The GOAT vs The BOAT
     
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  4. Hellowhosthat Red Belt

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    I guess you could say the GOAT in terms of overall accomplishments and the best being who was the best at their absolute peak.
     
  5. Chubi Orange Belt

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  6. AmericanMMA Purple Belt

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    ahhh yes.... so GOATS would be up there with the AS, Jones, GSPs of the world... but the BOAT is best at their peak which CLEARLY is Mike Russow and his HAMMER FIRST OF DOOM.

    Sorry I don't have the gif handy, but that is the best UFC anyone has been at peak. I'd listen to an argument for Mark Hunt's butt drop.
     
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  7. Hellowhosthat Red Belt

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    Probably for the best that you don't have the gif, you can get banned for posting snuff videos.
     
  8. AmericanMMA Purple Belt

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    LMAO true, RIP Todd Duffee....
     
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  9. Dana's Moonface Yellow Card Yellow Card

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    Riddick bowe was better than evander holy field, but holyfield was greater

    Greatest is definitely accomplishments, while better is h2h

    The majority of old school boxing writers rate Louis far greater than Tyson

    Rightly so, as he accomplished much more

    Anyone could see that Tyson was a much better fighter
     
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  10. Cpt Migraine It is what it is..

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    Agreed..

    Goat is a body of work.. boat is that prime moment.. vitor isn't close to goat mw but at one point he was real juicy and spin kicking everyone to death..
     
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  11. Dana's Moonface Yellow Card Yellow Card

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    Ray is the GOAT and fighters have surpassed his ability due to the evolution of sport

    Ray Robinson was better than someone like Floyd or manny for his time

    But with the advancements of training, not to mention diet and 'supplements', there is no doubt that floyd and manny are much better now

    Of course old dinosaur historians will scoff at the above, but if you use your eyes, you will see much more speed and skill on display
     
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  12. Sonny Qc 86,425 Likes

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    The HW GOAT is Fedor,
    he best HW might be prime Cain tho
     
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  13. Regal Boy Purple Belt

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    Conor is objectively one of the greatest featherweights ever and would most likely beat everyone in the division still.
     
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  14. Cpt Migraine It is what it is..

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    You made me like a gif of conor punching out aldo.. do you understand how rediculious your argument is..

    Conor is the best at punching old men, possibly raping women, being a scumbag AND possibly the best fw to ever do it..
     
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  15. RockyLockridge Silver Belt

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    fedor and cain come to mind
     
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  16. Regal Boy Purple Belt

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    False. You denying history because you dislike him as a man isn't going to change anything about his ability at 145.
     
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  17. Andreh Black Belt

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    He did do a good job there, that's why I give him "a good fighter" label. This is the honest thing to do, not put him where he doesn't belong to. This is what emotional casuals do all the time.
     
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  18. chinarice Steel Belt

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    Kind of like GSP is the WW GOAT but best WW at their respective peak?

    GSP.....
     
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  19. RockyLockridge Silver Belt

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    Good fighter at FW is an understatement he is easily one of the best to ever fight in the weight class. top 5 at least or your a completely unreasonable hater
     
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  20. PeacePipe Life is short , be nice to eachother :)

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    No way, Also was the best to do it at FW. You can't go off losses like that. Anderson Silva, bj Penn, all these legends now with loses. It's their period of dominance that counts. Of McGregor thought he could defend a throne, he would've. But we all saw what happened to him
     

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