The best S&C coach in the US?

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  1. akqjt

    akqjt Orange Belt

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    I'm curious to think whom you guys think are on the cutting edge of S&C for MMA in the United States. Obviously Joel Jamieson is well-respected around these parts for good reason. Are there many others like him? I've also been looking at Robert Forster's stuff, as well; he works with Joe Warren and Chris Camozzi by the looks of his Twitter page.

    Any thoughts? If you could pick the brain of any S&C guy in the country, whom would you choose?
     
  2. FlowWithTheGo23

    FlowWithTheGo23 Black Belt

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    No idea...I'll just say Steve Maxwell anyway.
     
  3. yookfarb

    yookfarb Red Belt

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    Rippetoe

    SS and Practical Programming are the two highest selling books on S&C ever and he's a charter member of the CSCS.

    It's not even debatable, and pretty much anyone who comes close was an associate of his at some point(Starr, Pendlay)
     
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    JRT6 Black Belt

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    Rippetoe dosen't know jack shit about conditioning.
     
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    magick Green Belt

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    o_O

    I'm pretty sure Rippetoe took Bill Star's conceptualization of training and made SS out of it.

    Heck, pretty much all popular linear program these days takes Bill Star's ideals as its basis.
     
  6. nomilkforsanta

    nomilkforsanta Nathan

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    He does not know much about peridization for sports beyond powerlifting.
     
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    nomilkforsanta Nathan

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    http://www.hhdev.psu.edu/profile/VladimirZatsiorsky
     
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    belph Pissing into the wind.

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    Al Vermeil. S&C coach for the Montana 49ers and the Jordan Bulls. Only S&C coach to work NBA, NFL, and MLB.
     
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    ThatBJJGuy Brown Belt

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    mike chang
     
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    Rofl @ Rippetoe
     
  12. Jake Pudenz

    Jake Pudenz Green Belt Professional Fighter

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    It depends what you're looking for. I am a huge fan of Pete Bommarito when it comes to sport performance.
     
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    PUO3 You are a can. Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Mother of god you cant be serious.
     
  14. Keosawa

    Keosawa Black Belt

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    I'm very biased, but I might choose Josh Bryant. He's got a great strength background (benched 600 at 22, then squatted 909 and deadlifted 810), he's an ISSA MFS, and he's got one of the most impressive lists of clients of any strength trainer (Robert Wilkerson, Orlando Green, Jeremy Hoornstra, Brandon Cass, Dan Kyser, Brandon Braner, BJ Whitehead, Richard Ficca). The combo of a great athletic career, plus great S&C credentials, plus a great client list makes him very appealing.
     
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    JauntyAngle International man of mystery

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    S&C coach usually means someone who works full time or on an extended basis with individual athletes or teams. Top S&C coaches work with top pros, top teams and Olympians. While I don't doubt that Rippetoe gets to work with good or even very good athletes from time to time, I don't believe that he much record of managing the entirety of any successful athletes' S&C for an extended period of time. That's not what he does- he's a gym owner and writer, and his specialty is introductory strength programming.

    Even if the question was just "who is the biggest authority on strength in the country"(totally different from "best S&C coach" of course( it probably wouldn't be Rippetoe. He hasn't produced many/any top lifters and theoretically he's not at the top level. Having published the two best-selling introductory texts doesn't make you the best.
     
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    The man thinks the hamstrings are essential in the squat. He's no where near the top.
     
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    ironwolf Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    Im thinking steve maxwell, Im actually thinking of hiring him to help with a few things sport related.
     
  18. Eric Brown

    Eric Brown Crusty old bastard

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    I hope you are trolling.


    Pioneers:

    Louis Ricke and Clyde Emrich

    Raised the bar and really helped cement the role of S&C coaches in pro sports:

    John Gamble.

    Collegiate:

    Michael W. Favre

    Pro:

    Too hard to say. Too many variables.

    Specifically for MMA: no idea, not really seen a lot that was "cutting edge" that was actually worthwhile. MMA S&C is still in its infancy, which is why you see so many fighters doing so much stupid shit.
     
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    "Baseball guy" or not, if I were a pro and I had to pick one guy to take control of my S&C, it would probably be Eric Cressey.
     
  20. yookfarb

    yookfarb Red Belt

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    I'm trolling? The OP suggested Joel fucking Jamieson and almost everyone who quoted me didn't have a reasonable alternative.

    Rippetoe for life

    He actually writes worthwhile peer reviewed texts on S&C as opposed to a charlatan maintaining a 2$ blog or a glorified babysitter for college kids or pros(almost all of whom have their own personal coaches during the off season and are roided out to the gills anyways).
     

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