Temirov looks scary

Pantoja going to get chinchecked.
Uzbek takeover
Dagestan who?
 
Temirov is very gifted, I told you fucking goofs about him about 18 months ago, smashing a guy like CJ Vargas shouldn't sway you alone though. I even said he'd probably he the first guy to knock Vargas out.

Central Asia is TEEMING with talent in the smaller weight classes, Temirov isn't even at the top of the list at Flyweight, he was just one of the clearly good ones. Thankfully the UFC doesn't really sign these guys too much so you'll get a lot more Western chumps.
 
Feed him to Kai Kara-France.
 
HuskySamoan said:
Temirov is very gifted, I told you fucking goofs about him about 18 months ago, smashing a guy like CJ Vargas shouldn't sway you alone though. I even said he'd probably he the first guy to knock Vargas out.

Central Asia is TEEMING with talent in the smaller weight classes, Temirov isn't even at the top of the list at Flyweight, he was just one of the clearly good ones. Thankfully the UFC doesn't really sign these guys too much so you'll get a lot more Western chumps.
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Divisions need variety man. you can't just have a division 90% dagis and central Asians. People won't watch. They are quality I agree but most of them are also wrestle heavy, that's a recipe for tanking your viewing figures.

This guy seemed good though, on topic. A few decent additions to the division from that part of the world. I'm surprised there's so many flyweight, they're big fuckers in Central Asia!
 
The_Renaissance said:
Divisions need variety man. you can't just have a division 90% dagis and central Asians. People won't watch. They are quality I agree but most of them are also wrestle heavy, that's a recipe for tanking your viewing figures.

This guy seemed good though, on topic. A few decent additions to the division from that part of the world. I'm surprised there's so many flyweight, they're big fuckers in Central Asia!
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Central Asians tend to be smaller unless they're like Bivol or GGG who are ethnically central Asian, they're half European half Korean. There's some big guys like Shavkat, you have Samandar Murodov and Khotam Boynazarov at 170 and Faridun Odilov at 185-205. And man, there's like 20 central asians in the entire UFC, they could double that number fine and that region produces guys who can strike at a higher rate than Dagestan. These places create disproportionate amounts of talent but are way underrepresented despite being more worthy of being signed while cans from the US, Brazil and Latin America overflow the roster. I'm just asking for fair numbers, they'd still be small fractions.

As for Temirov, like I said...he's not one of the better Central Asian prospects, he's just a good one. Explosive and athletic, heavy handed but lots off balance strikes and big single shocks, looping punches and open defense. He's obviously never going to be a contender, just a fun addition. And again, nobody is saying have the whole roster but the UFC should prioritize talent, skill, potential and achievements more than they do. A lot of cans signed, a lot of top tier prospects overlooked.
 
HuskySamoan said:
Central Asians tend to be smaller unless they're like Bivol or GGG who are ethnically central Asian, they're half European half Korean. There's some big guys like Shavkat, you have Samandar Murodov and Khotam Boynazarov at 170 and Faridun Odilov at 185-205. And man, there's like 20 central asians in the entire UFC, they could double that number fine and that region produces guys who can strike at a higher rate than Dagestan. These places create disproportionate amounts of talent but are way underrepresented despite being more worthy of being signed while cans from the US, Brazil and Latin America overflow the roster. I'm just asking for fair numbers, they'd still be small fractions.

As for Temirov, like I said...he's not one of the better Central Asian prospects, he's just a good one. Explosive and athletic, heavy handed but lots off balance strikes and big single shocks, looping punches and open defense. He's obviously never going to be a contender, just a fun addition. And again, nobody is saying have the whole roster but the UFC should prioritize talent, skill, potential and achievements more than they do. A lot of cans signed, a lot of top tier prospects overlooked.
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Great post.
 
Dudes a can. And not scary at all. Looks like he got beat with a pan.
 
HuskySamoan said:
Central Asians tend to be smaller unless they're like Bivol or GGG who are ethnically central Asian, they're half European half Korean. There's some big guys like Shavkat, you have Samandar Murodov and Khotam Boynazarov at 170 and Faridun Odilov at 185-205. And man, there's like 20 central asians in the entire UFC, they could double that number fine and that region produces guys who can strike at a higher rate than Dagestan. These places create disproportionate amounts of talent but are way underrepresented despite being more worthy of being signed while cans from the US, Brazil and Latin America overflow the roster. I'm just asking for fair numbers, they'd still be small fractions.

As for Temirov, like I said...he's not one of the better Central Asian prospects, he's just a good one. Explosive and athletic, heavy handed but lots off balance strikes and big single shocks, looping punches and open defense. He's obviously never going to be a contender, just a fun addition. And again, nobody is saying have the whole roster but the UFC should prioritize talent, skill, potential and achievements more than they do. A lot of cans signed, a lot of top tier prospects overlooked.
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They can’t bring all that central Asian talent because the spots are taken up by WMMA fighters.

Sure, there might be 10 other guys like Shavkat Rakhmanov roaming the steppe, but we need to prioritize and killers like Macy Barber, Molly Meatballs and Jessica Eye are more important.
 
HuskySamoan said:
again, nobody is saying have the whole roster but the UFC should prioritize talent, skill, potential and achievements more than they do.
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The main goal of the UFC is to make money. What incentives do they have to go looking in Central Asia for skilled fighters when they can sign local DWCS guys for cheap and probably make more or the same amount of money? They have no competition in the space anyway.

Plus, like it or not, the fight game is tightly woven to nationalism, and ethnic and religious pride.

There is a nice chunk of the MMA fan base (and on the dawg) that feels emasculated anytime a Dagestani wins, you don't want to make a segment of your PAYING audience feel bad by increasing the number of elite Central Asian or Caucasian fighters. Also, the fans that these fighters bring won't buy PPVs.

In the end, everything goes back to money.
 
The Siege said:
The main goal of the UFC is to make money. What incentives do they have to go looking in Central Asia for skilled fighters when they can sign local DWCS guys for cheap and probably make more or the same amount of money? They have no competition in the space anyway.

Plus, like it or not, the fight game is tightly woven to nationalism, and ethnic and religious pride.

There is a nice chunk of the MMA fan base (and on the dawg) that feels emasculated anytime a Dagestani wins, you don't want to make a segment of your PAYING audience feel bad by increasing the number of elite Central Asian or Caucasian fighters. Also, the fans that these fighters bring won't buy PPVs.

In the end, everything goes back to money.
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Look into the average income for people from central Asia, 20k/20k over there id like owning successful law firm money over there. Similar with Dagestan.
 
HuskySamoan said:
Look into the average income for people from central Asia, 20k/20k over there id like owning successful law firm money over there. Similar with Dagestan.
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I know, but I mean from the UFC perspective, the risks of signing fighters from Brazil or the US are lower than a fighter from Central Asia or the Caucuses (visa issues, ties to certain crime or political figures, etc). Plus, if one of your US based fighters makes it to the belt, you will attract more Western fans who will attend or buy the PPV.

I understand your point, but I think fighter excellence, potential, and the spirit of the sport are not in the top 3 of the UFC's priority list.
 
Vergara has a bad habit of turning his back when rocked. Got absolutely starched
 
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