Social Teen Mauled to Death By Pitbulls

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  1. deadshot138

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    https://www.yahoo.com/news/teen-dies-pit-bull-attacks-160636259.html

    Kid was trespassing at 5am so I guess he invited himself to the Ramsay treatment. One of the dogs was shot by police and later euthanized after biting an officer. This story is a slippery slope. The dogs defended their territory but seemed to do so with an uncontrollable attack, which led to police intervention. This is a play-stupid-Games story but at what point should the owner have tried to call off the dogs?
     
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    I'm not sure what to make of this. Where is Ja?
     
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    Was the owner home?
     
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    Was gonna make a joke on the kid but notice he's dead.
     
  6. jefferz

    jefferz Gold Belt Platinum Member

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    What a shitty way to go.
     
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    "She did what she’s supposed to do,” Guillermo Lorenzo, who owned the home and the dogs, later said of the euthanized dog to WFAA-TV.

    The teen did not live in the home, according to a statement from the Irving Police Department, and it was unclear why he was in the backyard.

    Lorenzo told investigators that the boy was trespassing.

    "Nobody has the right to be in this yard," Lorenzo told WFAA-TV.



    Its a tragic situation with the death of a 16 year old boy, but there's not a controversy.

    The dogs (of peace) fulfilled their function, attacking trespassers.



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    So the dog did its job and died for it.

    Guess we gotta genocide those pitbulls
     
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    The dogs did what dogs are supposed to do, protect. I'm sure this will turn into a "Dogs of peace" hate thread anyway though. It could have been any breed of dog.
     
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    Good fuck’em.
     
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    yeah what an idiot, should've had chihuahuas guarding the property <{hughesimpress}>

    RIP to the dumbass kid either way though
     
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    I'm pretty anti-pitbull, but the pitbulls and their owner shouldn't be held liable for the boy's death. It's an unfortunate tragedy but I don't think there was any criminal negligence or intent.
     
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    Yeah, saw this. Not going to get worked up over this one. Don't trespass. In this case the dogs were simply doing what it expected of guard dogs. They were guarding.

    Trespass on the property of others at your own peril.
     
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    shot one and took the others to the pound for doing their job as guard dogs.
     
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    Ban teens.

    Sucks that the dogs got killed for doing their job, although the one that bit the Officer had it comin after that.

    If the owner was home, they could have stopped it before it got deadly, if they wanted to.
     
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    It’s unfortunate that the dog had to die.

    It’s kind of an interesting legal conundrum. The City owes the dog owner compensation, in my opinion.
     
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    There is a law on the books for this sort of situation:

    Texas Health & Safety Code § 822.005. Attack by Dog
    (a) A person commits an offense if the person is the owner of a dog and the person:

    (1) with criminal negligence, as defined by Section 6.03, Penal Code, fails to secure the dog and the dog makes an unprovoked attack on another person that occurs at a location other than the owner's real property or in or on the owner's motor vehicle or boat and that causes serious bodily injury, as defined by Section 1.07, Penal Code, or death to the other person; or

    (2) knows the dog is a dangerous dog by learning in a manner described by Section 822.042(g) that the person is the owner of a dangerous dog, and the dangerous dog makes an unprovoked attack on another person that occurs at a location other than a secure enclosure in which the dog is restrained in accordance with Subchapter D and that causes serious bodily injury, as defined by Section 822.001, or death to the other person.
    (b) An offense under this section is a felony of the third degree unless the attack causes death, in which event the offense is a felony of the second degree.

    (c) If a person is found guilty of an offense under this section, the court may order the dog destroyed by a person listed in Section 822.004.

    (d) A person who is subject to prosecution under this section and under any other law may be prosecuted under this section, the other law, or both.
    And so, based off the story, the question is whether the pitbull was a "dangerous dog" under the laws governing this suburb of Dallas, TX. If the dog was a dangerous dog, the next question is whether the enclosure complied with the requirement for dangerous dogs.

    However even if the dog was "dangerous" and improperly enclosed, § 822.006 provides that "It is a defense to prosecution under Section 822.005(a) that the person attacked by the dog was at the time of the attack engaged in conduct prohibited by Chapters 19, 20, 21, 22, 28, 29, and 30, Penal Code." Chapter 30 of the Texas Penal Code pertains to "Burglary and Criminal Trespass." Section 30.05 pertains to criminal trespass. Thus, we also need to know whether the kid was criminally trespassing, as that would be an affirmative defense to any prosecution. The critical issue in this regard is not just the kid's unauthorized entry on the land, but whether he had "notice" that entry was unlawful. The law specifies that a trespasser has "notice" if there is "fencing or other enclosure obviously designed to exclude intruders." TPC § 30.05(b)(2)(B).

    Long story short, the dog's owner won't face prosecution. I doubt he'll be civilly liable either. However, IMO the law of dangerous dogs should reflect some principal of proportionality. The owner probably wouldn't be able to kill the kid merely for a trespassing, so his dog shouldn't be able to either. If the kid was attempting a residential burglary, perhaps it would be justified. But if the kid was just using the yard as a shortcut (as kids sometimes do), I don't think he should die. If you want to own a pitbull, fine, but you have to accept the consequences.
     
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    Oh yeah... I'm sure a couple golden retrievers would have mauled that kid to death, too. :rolleyes:

    Anyone trying to justify this must believe by extension that a property owner has the right to shoot and kill anyone trespassing on their property. No questions asked.
     

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