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Technique breakdown of why Till's lead-uppercut failed vs Woodley

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  1. Thickfreakness Blue Belt

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    Daniel Cormier pointed this one out.
     
  2. SeattleFightFan Steel Belt

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    ha! there have been a lot of breakdown videos fast this fight. i personally like "what really happened" series by TheWeasle, but Gracie Breakdown and a few others were out by early Monday morning.

    I'll watch it. Thanks TS.

    EDIT: my mistake. this isn't a breakdown / what really happened. this is a conversation between two guys, one asks if the other thought DC's breakdown was good.

    frankly, not much to see here. waste of 3 good minutes, if you ask me. i would have preferred the original DC breakdown myself, but what do i know.

    i have a strong suspicion this was only posted because of a Conor reference....
     
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  3. Uncommon Valor Super Fly

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    He got punched in the face.
     
  4. Thickfreakness Blue Belt

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    I always hear people mention Weasle's stuff but never checked him out, he's good?

    And np.
     
  5. Thickfreakness Blue Belt

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    In short, sure haha!
     
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    he does most of the biggest fights.
     
  7. Thickfreakness Blue Belt

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    Thank you my friend I'll give it a watch.
     
  8. PROlogic Banned Banned

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    Weasel is a fraud. He has no idea what hes talking about. He only understands the basics. He doesnt understand on any kind of deeper level. He's constantly missing the finer details and misrepresenting what actually happened/what was actually the story of the fight etc

    If you truly want to get on your way to understanding fighting on a legitimate deep level, then watch BJJ Scout for MMA and Lee Wylie for boxing. Those 2 are legit as fuck and actually know what they are talking about

    Those are the only 2 analysts I myself watch and respect greatly
     
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  9. Thickfreakness Blue Belt

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    Pretty much what Brendan describes. Good job
     
  10. Thickfreakness Blue Belt

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    Interesting. I'll check him out and find out for myself. I like all those guys plus Dorman who breaks this down.
     
  11. Chain Saw Banned Banned

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    Lol I love these guys.

    Fucking Sherdog man.

    Thanks for telling us that genius!!!
     
  12. PROlogic Banned Banned

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    Thank you: )

    Also good thread. Feels good to have some intelligent discussion here for once

    He never mentioned Conor's sophisticated leadhand radar systems and sophisticated fienting systems.

    I hope me going deeper, helped you to get a better understand/clearer picture : )

    Conor like Floyd is a master of ambusing opponents on OFFbeats..

    With the leadhand "touch touch then shoot the lead"

    And in always mixing it up

    Sometimes Conor goes "touch touch shoot"..."touch shoot"..."touch touch touch shoot"..

    Conor is genuinely the hardest fighter in MMA history to get a read on and or time (in very much the same way Floyd was for boxing)

    Conor is truly something special. Its a shame how under rated he is.

    If you are a fan of nothing but pure skill, Conor McGregor is the full embodiment of nothing but pure skill and high fight IQ, and Conor is your fighter to study and learn from: )
     
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  13. PROlogic Banned Banned

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    I've never heard of Dorman. He was definitely spot-on.

    But 100% it's a must you follow BJJ Scout and Lee Wylie
     
  14. Thickfreakness Blue Belt

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    He's actually a bit of an OG, Rogan gives him shout outs from Rogan a lot. BJJ Scout is great as is Wylie.
     
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    Who does Rogan about out?
     
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    DC pointed out that Conor was the only one to do it and get away with it. This is for two reasons Conor uses footwork to close the distance quickly when doing it whilst staying off the centre line and coming off at an angle, other fighters use that uppercut to swing into the distance of being close enough, attacking in a straight line. Secondly when Conor does it his follow up doesn't leave until his uppercut hand is back in position, other fighters are already punching with the straight when the uppercut is coming back down leaving themselves with no defence. Till has a longer frame than Woodley why he used a lunch that required him to close the distance against a short guy with power who's been tagging him good I'll never know.
     
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    Woodley would murder Conor and his scrub coaching. He's being trained by Freddie Roach. Rewatch the first round of the Mendes fight. Conor was getting Lit up on the feet and on the ground by a wrestler.

    You cherry picking highlights to make a narrative is why no one respects your insight.
     
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    Jack Slack i also enjoy very much. Maybe it's a matter of taste but i would like to add him to this list, especially when it comes to striking (in mma).
     
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    noob here, just nice to see actual insight and analysis. does everyone think it boils down to Till wasn't ready/too young? he's what 25, and Woodley 36? also did anyone make a nice bet on woodley and laugh all the way to the bank?
     
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    till's ground game isnt championship level
     

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