Tea or coffee drinkers?

[Home_Slice]

That's really cool, valuable information. I'm not a dr but it seems to me might give a good indication of the cause of the headaches. Caffeine is a vasoconstrictor, codeine is a powerful opioid, it's impressive that the extra (possible) constriction could have as much effect as the analgesic effect of the opioid.
You are probably better off this way, side effect wise.

On topic, I hardly ever drink coffee or tea but use caffeine tablets and theanine. The theanine seems to allow for using caffeine a bit later in the day without affecting sleep as much. Both coffee and green tea have some other positive attributes though.

Good info. I studied pharmacology with the intention to pursue a clinical career some years ago but it never panned out, so most of that info has been lost in the sands of time for me.

A-I is changing the game however and tapping that question into Gemini just now suggests that vasocontraction hypothesis may well be exactly correct.

Long term use of acetaminophen in particular is super not recommended, and I've basically overused that crap for years so seriously hoping no long term damage has been done.

As a diuretic caffeine/coffee has proved a health benefit, drinking more "adjunct" fluids and being healthier like that.

 

[Home_Slice]

I'm reading good things about this Matcha Tea, lots of anti-oxidants with a prolonged caffeine release property.

Think that will be next on my hit list.

 

[Versez]

1 or 2 cups of coffee in the morning.

after this its 1 tea in the afternoon, another tea in the evening.

I've cut the monster energy drink out of my life.

 

[WillyWarminski]

I love tea. LOVE it. Though I drink caffeine a.m and this is tight timetabled. Sadly, the espresso machine takes 25 seconds. The tea... I indulge at the weekend.

I like tea infused with nothing else. Yes. Metal! Teabags suck.

I love thick cut good quality gree tea.

 

[Fury]

I'm reading good things about this Matcha Tea, lots of anti-oxidants with a prolonged caffeine release property.

Think that will be next on my hit list.

Matcha is green tea powdered. The big difference is that it's a suspension, not an infusion. You drink the plant.

It's also a bit more work to get perfect and I find the quality of a lot of the matcha powders is shit.

I like it but it's a bit more effort.

Also, none of them are magic. Drink what you like and works for you.

 

[TankAbbott4Eva]

2-3 cups of black coffee everyday

Yeah that's me too, sometimes add a cup of green tea or oolong. I try to smash a quick one before gym mornings which is 6am, so need to get up early to get it in.

 

[1rawdog]

... I studied pharmacology with the intention to pursue a clinical career some years ago but it never panned out, so most of that info has been lost in the sands of time for me.
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Long term use of acetaminophen in particular is super not recommended, and I've basically overused that crap for years so seriously hoping no long term damage has been done.
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Pretty funny, I could have written all of that myself. I won't share too much personal info but I was a pharmacy tech in my younger years, basically like an apprentice. the agency I worked for offered me a type of scholarship which would have paid for most of my schooling but I pulled out because it started to look very boring. I regret the potentially lost easy money and gov pension but I think the boredom might have killed me.
I've also been guilty of the overuse for years but I smash down supplements like NAC to compensate. I get bloods very 3 months and they are good but of course they don't tell the full story.
Cheers

 

[Home_Slice]

Pretty funny, I could have written all of that myself. I won't share too much personal info but I was a pharmacy tech in my younger years, basically like an apprentice. the agency I worked for offered me a type of scholarship which would have paid for most of my schooling but I pulled out because it started to look very boring. I regret the potentially lost easy money and gov pension but I think the boredom might have killed me.
I've also been guilty of the overuse for years but I smash down supplements like NAC to compensate. I get bloods very 3 months and they are good but of course they don't tell the full story.
Cheers

I tried NAC also, probably worth taking but I understand it's typically used for acute use overdose cases.

It's the long term effect on hearing that modern research is revealing I'm more concerned about, but so far so good.

Liver/kidney function is fine in my case, but my new tea/coffee discovery will hopefully replace 90% + of my former solpedeine use.

In my case I withdrew from further pharmacology pursuits as at the time a lot of the major R&D companies were defunding further CNS pharma drug development.
Basically the cloth has been wrung dry in that area.

And at the same time I was realizing the next major effective intervention in CNS disorder treatment is much less likely to be pharmaceutical, and more MORE likely to be cognitive in nature.

Example: age old disorders, solving puzzles to keep the mind active is the most effective way to combat neural decline.

There's a great movie starring Robin Williams, I think it comes recommended to every pharmacology student, called "Awakenings". It explores the contrast between cognitive interventions and drug/pharma interventions in treating nervous system issues.

 

[SandisLL]

Caught my interest. That's a similarly dosed formulation called Acetaminophen with codeine or Tylenol #1 over here, a painkiller. So I assume you were using it as such, yes?
Then you replaced it or some of it with caffeinated drink, but what about the pain?

Codeine is weak painkiller, paracetamol is NSAIDs type stuff.
Codeine is very valuable for some medical conditions and is used for example to reduce cough reflex, some other conditions and etc... while as painkiller these if low dosages are weak.

Codeine and caffeine are " soft " easy stuff for liver, if paracetamol: if to use, IMHO, if for long term ...ask doctor. Some are using this stuff during months, some are not happy after some days of usage etc.

 

[SandisLL]

As a diuretic caffeine/coffee has proved a health benefit, drinking more "adjunct" fluids and being healthier like that.

As diuretic yup, caffeine ( better clear medical grade stuff ) + some other stuff, like vit C , with enough but not too much water IMHO in some cases is beautiful.
There are pros and cons...ofc something might be added to this stuff....

 

[1rawdog]

Codeine is weak painkiller, paracetamol is NSAIDs type stuff.

I have a decent understanding of this stuff and sorry but I have to say it's hard to agree with this part of your post.
"Codeine is weak painkiller" I can't agree with that at all but I guess it's relative, IOW the questions I'd ask is - compared to what? And how are you measuring the strength of a painkiller?
Codeine is superior to acetaminophen by every metric i am aware of.

"paracetamol is NSAIDs type stuff." It is very different from NSAIDs, very different mechanism of action as well as different results and effectiveness for pain relief, specifically with regard to consideration of inflammation as a cause. As you allude to the side effect profile is much different as well so I'm not sure what you mean by "type stuff". That's some pretty loose wording unless you mean anything that treats pain. Where does that end? Ice? Heat? Cloves? Chili Peppers?

 

[SandisLL]

"Codeine is weak painkiller" I can't agree with that at all but I guess it's relative, IOW the questions I'd ask is - compared to what?

I mentioned " if low dosage " , you didn't had quoted whole post, just part of this.

And how are you measuring the strength of a painkiller?
Codeine is superior to acetaminophen by every metric i am aware of.

how measuring? From effect on me.
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About stuff that it is superior to acetaminophen I agree.

 

[1rawdog]

I mentioned " if low dosage " , you didn't had quoted whole post, just part of this.

how measuring? From effect on me.
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About stuff that it is superior to acetaminophen I agree.

Ah, I see now. I found it hard to follow the way it was written, I mean the sentence structure.
I will assure you that milligram to milligram codeine is not weak in comparison to common over the counter painkillers by any of the standard measures,

Cheers

 

[Home_Slice]

Those who drink coffee, how do you brew it?

Moka pot?

French press?

 

[Hotora86]

Tea only. I guess you could call me a ... teatotaller!

Dilmah and Ahmad are the brands that work for me. Lipton and Tetley are garbage. Loose leaf if I'm making it for two or more ppl, non-plastic bags if for myself.

Coffee hits me too fast and then drops me like a piece of shit. Tea is a slow burn for hrs.

Just got some proper Yorkshire tea as recommended by a pal from England, will try that soon.

 

[Ibm]

I love Green Tea. I used to get made fun of for being a preppy wierdo for liking Green tea but oh well. If you have a brutal savage lifestyle that demans energy, coffeee is the one to go for.

 

[Versez]

Are tea drinker more prone to weight loss ?

 

[Icanseeu]

I love tea but don't drink it much. As I don't make it and of course bars don't serve it. So just just drink it when I go out for breakfast.