Taller guys prefer throwing/tripping instead of shooting?

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  1. flyingknee16

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    I'm almost 6'0" and I weigh 165 lbs, in my weight division I'm tall, and I find that whenever I go with guys, I usually try to do trips or throws when I try to take them down instead of shooting. Does anyone else feel this way or notice that taller guys usually like to throw or trip instead of shoot? I think guys like Alistair and Shogun also seem to prefer these methods as well, and they're tall too.
     
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    I'm 6'2 and prefer throws/trips to shooting. I think it has a lot more do with my judo background than anything else. I think it's just harder for tall guys to get down low for the shoot.
     
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    I love my harais, and I am 6'3".
     
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    I'm a taller wrestler, and have always preferred foot sweeps to shooting. Arm drag to inside trip and arm drag to boot scoot works like a charm too if you practice. That being said, continue improving your shot. I started relying on trips to much for a while, and I paid for it. If a guy respects your shot, it makes trips much easier.
     
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    Im 6ft 165 and guys almost ALWAYS shoot in for a double leg on me..sometimes a singe...I mean like 95% of the time. especially in no gi.
     
  8. guardpasser

    guardpasser Tudo Bem Bjj

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    not tall here for my weight class, 6-0"
    but i always go for throws and the "pull down" -where you pop thiers lapels and drag them towards you, then take the back.
    my takedowns suck , i will work on them a lot more the next few weeks, but i prefer the throws
     
  9. phenomfan1529

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    i also use trips/throws alot more than i shoot. im 6'0 and 160 pounds
     
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    I find it alot harder to trip guys who are taller than me for some reason, I can trip people about 2 inches taller than me fine but like 4 inches taller I just can't. So i end up just shooting in.
     
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    If you're short and your shoulders are located like one foot above your opponents hip, it's no mystery why it feels easier to shoot and lift. If you're taller, it's a little easier to pull him out of balance for a trip I think.
     
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    tall guys are just easiler to shoot in on! I mean i'm 5'10 which is avg to short at 185, and i find shoot quite easy on guys at 6' tall. I also find that hip toss work better to skinny tall guys!
     
  13. Kawlinz

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    I haven't taken any Judo or Wrestling, but I think i should, as many people I've sparred with have a very tough time tripping me and taking me down, some taller, some shorter.
     
  14. Eric O

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    I'll shoot from the clinch and that's about it. I'm 6'3" and 200lbs.
     
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    6' 170 I prefer pulling guard.


    But seriously, I usually shoot with mixed results. Maybe my wrestling would not suck as much if I used more trips/throws.
     
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    i'm about 6,0 165 pounds, and i usually do a shoot trip, like bustamante,,
     
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    I'm 6'2", 228, and I prefer Judo/Grecco takedowns. I also have had multiple knee surgeries, so I couldn't even practice shots or some throws. It's doing better now, so I've been drilling my shot.

    The good thing is, because I was stuck walking around nearly with my legs locked out straight while I had the braces and such, I drilled the sprawl a lot, and I've got it as a reflexive movement. THe height is an advantage with the sprawl, I find, as when I throw my hips back and my feet go back, a shorter guy can't get his hands around my thigh and try to drive through. They just wind up a spectator to my totally awesome "Chest on Back Attack"...

    SPIN, MFer!!! SPIN!!!
     
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    stephen, when i make it to the dc area again, i would like to train with you.
    i got you by 15 lbs but your 2" taller, i usually dont get to find people your size to roll with.
     
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  20. jahred

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    i'm 5'11" 170 lbs and don't have too many training partners these days. the only tall guy i occasionally roll with is 6'3" 260 lbs.. so i don't take too many shots on him. :D

    my knees are poor and as a result i don't usually get a takedown right off a shot, but it's still my main attempt anyway unless i pull guard. sadly, my takedowns are teh suck.
     

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