Takedowns should not score big at all

[Emjay]

The problem a lot of you are having with my first post is that you assume you know HOW MUCH a TD is scored relative to other stuff. Forget that for a second

I'm putting myself at risk by going for any offensive maneuver. The fact that there's risk should carry some amount of reward. If you guys can't understand that, it's ok - but don't make things about "Well you shouldn't be able to steal a round with a TD" or "You have to do something with it", because that's not the point.

At the most basic level, a TD is an offensive maneuver, so it needs to be rewarded in a similar fashion to other offensive maneuvers because they all carry a risk

 

[Joe Dwarf]

I've always imagined if you tried to single leg on a guy in real life you'd have to eat some big elbows to the back of your head. Anyone have any experience using/recieving any form of a takedown in real life?

Yes, I won all my high school fights with double legs. In real life, the guy eats dirt or pavement and at best (for him) has the wind knocked out of him, at worst badly hurt from being hit with the planet.

MMA fighters are in good condition and landing on a relatively soft surface so they don't take as much damage. But if you don't think slams are taking their toll on people, you've never been thrown hard.

 

[Emjay]

Yes, I won all my high school fights with double legs. In real life, the guy eats dirt or pavement and at best (for him) has the wind knocked out of him, at worst badly hurt from being hit with the planet.

MMA fighters are in good condition and landing on a relatively soft surface so they don't take as much damage. But if you don't think slams are taking their toll on people, you've never been thrown hard.

I've been hit with the planet before ... It no feel so good

 

[pclanadmin2]

A takedown should count as much as a jab.

i'm ok with this.

 

[Silas1222]

To be honest, I think a takedown is only as valuable as what you can do with it. Guys who get taken down and pop right back up should negate any "points" for the take down. I think the reward for the takedown should be inherent from the advantagous position as well as the effects from the slam.

 

[panamaican]

I'm wondering how many people think takedowns should be scored like jabs have ever been taken down against their will. It's far harder to do than a jab.

and as anyone who's ever been thrown knows, they hurt like hell. The harder the surface, the more takedowns can be fight enders. I feel like people forget that because these guys are professional fighters fighting in a sterile environment.

 

[Megatronlee]

Takedowns are very important. If that guy can't stop you from taking him down them you won that portion of the fight unless he can do more from the bottom.

 

[Joe Dwarf]

I'm wondering how many people think takedowns should be scored like jabs have ever been taken down against their will. It's far harder to do than a jab.

This. According to FightMetric, DC got 3 takedowns and landed 50 significant punches. How do you possible score a takedown the same as a punch? People who say this should just go watch boxing or kickboxing, clearly they don't understand or appreciate mixed martial arts.

 

[xMaxPower]

i agree. its what you do after you get the takedown that matters imo, not the takedown itself.

 

[Csus2]

Takedowns and submission attempts should only be scored if they are preceded by the word "flying".

 

[aichokyu]

wrestling is the number one combat sport in the us, UFC is a us org with mostly us fans, so they chose the rules that favour them.
if it was really about "deciding where the fight takes place" a defended takedown should score points for the fighter defending, as he decided that the fight should stay standing and made it that way...