Social Sweden. Update: Criminals should be nervous

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    Someone should ask these fucks how many Christian schools should be opened in whatever shithole they're from
     
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    Different cultures, not so hard to judge.
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    Who could have predicted that Muhammadans would start parallel societies leeching off the natives. Absolutely nobody.
    Also, I love your avatars sweede, your kids are adorable, you're very lucky. Good thing your wife is a realist.
     
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    Fortunately, they have the look after my wife. And yes I am a very proud father and always get happy when you hear compliments about your children. My wife does not let anything go by chance and has a well-arranged schedule so they are always supervised. She is what I would call an eccentric overprotective mother.
     
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    A destabilized nation.
     
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    Tomorrow is Uppdrag Granskning (UG) time. A program that is broadcast every Wednesday at the best time. This year has been a lot about immigrants and it is unusual as SVT is always careful about how to portray minorities. But since it has become very clear that the Swedish people want a public discussion about immigrants, integration and crime, they have decided to broadcast different scenarios when it comes to foreigners with a Muslim background and the difficulties we have in Sweden how to deal with a very different people where religion and honor culture is so important.

    This is also an insight for you non-Swedes how Swedish law works, how much resources we give each case instead of punishment. And a portrait of a young criminal with immigrant background. A portrait that is common in our society.
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    Young and criminal, 2019-09-17

    https://www.svt.se/nyheter/granskning/ug/han-har-varit-misstankt-for-221-brott-pa-fyra-ar-och-ar-19-ar-gammal

    He has been suspected of 221 crimes in four years, and is 19 years old. Hassan says he robbed for the first time when he was 12. Since 2015, he has been suspected of over 200 crimes. The aim of society is not to lock in young people, but at the same time Hassan shows no signs of changing. Uppdrag Granskning has mapped the life of a young criminal man - and what the authorities have done to stop him.

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    Hassan, 19. - I do not regret my crimes

    In a movie from one of the police investigations, you can see a stolen sports car driving on the highway for over 200 kilometers per hour. On several occasions, it drives straight towards the traffic and forces police cars to weigh away. Hassan sits in the car. He is 15 years old and has stolen the car. This is not the first time he has broken the law, and it is far from the last. As a teenager, he has for many years been a case with the social services. In a personal investigation, he himself has stated that he robbed the first time when he was 12, ill-use when he was 14.

    Today, Hassan is 19 years old and is in prison. He is serving a sentence of two and a half years for, among other things, robbery. With so-called two-thirds release included, it will be a total of one year and eight months. UG contacts him to hear his thoughts on why his life looks like it does. He finally thanks yes to an interview.

    - I understand that if you are a criminal, it will someday happen that you are in prison and my turn was now.

    You've been committing crimes for a long time, ever since you were nine or ten years, right?

    - Yes it is true. Of course, it's not that serious at that age, but it did lead to some problems. There were snooters and bike thefts and lots of stuff like that when you were ten years old. Over the years, it has escalated. But I was placed in a youth home, or SiS home, where I met other criminals. Then they became my role models and I wanted to be like them.

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    Hassan is caught on a surveillance camera at a gas station. He is then suspected of a number of crimes - including theft by burglary and car theft.

    From 2015 until today, Hassan has been suspected of 221 crimes, according to police. It is more than many lifestyle criminals accumulate over a lifetime.

    - The frustration has been great around this individual all over the region. At social services, at the police, certainly at the Prosecutor's Office too. What do we do? asks Magnus Nilsson, municipal police in Järfälla outside Stockholm.

    Magnus Nilsson himself has seized Hassan with a stolen car. But he was released after questioning.

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    Police Magnus Nilsson has arrested Hassan on one occasion. He also follows him as he flies with a stolen sports car.

    - He is a youth and he is not arrested, so it goes back to some form of care in the social services. So back to where he was before. It can be home care, and you can discuss how effective it is, says Magnus Nilsson.

    Up to the age of 18, special reasons are required to arrest or arrest a person. It is about very serious crimes such as gross robbery. Young people should receive care - not be locked in, is the idea. This also applies to social service measures.

    - There is research that long institutional placements that are, after all, being locked up, also at SiS institutions (individually adapted forced care), are not good for children and young people's development, says Annika Öquist, Head of Unit at the National Board of Social Affairs, who draws up regulations for the municipal social services.

    But what has been done to stop a young person who shows no signs of interrupting his criminal progress? UG have followed in Hassan's footsteps to get a picture of his life, his crimes and how the authorities have handled it. It starts in Blackeberg, northwest Stockholm (The capital of Sweden). Here Hassan grows up with his mother and siblings. He has difficulties in school and is drawn into criminal circles, it is possible to read in the documents of the social service.

    When he is 12, the mother turns to the social service. She says the son is aggressive and nervous, she is worried that he is part of the criminal gang. Hassan is disposed of in accordance with the Act on the Care of Young Persons (LVU) and is relocated between several institutions and nursing homes for the time to come.

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    Hassan on one of the occasions when he was arrested by police.

    Hassan is arrested when he is 14 years old after a car chase. The police write to the social service that they "feel a great concern for him", that he "needs a lot of support not to continue his criminal trajectory". He is reassigned from his mother after he is suspected of robbery, illegal threats, abuse, abuse of judicial procedure, theft and attempted extortion. He is sent to a youth home in Enköping, but escapes and is placed at his mother's home again. After Hassan is suspected of several crimes, the social service applies for a placement in a SiS home. While waiting in place, he is still placed in the home. The police warn the social service that Hassan is "extremely active in crime".

    Soon the car chase takes place where Hassan, 15 years old, drives a stolen sports car for 229 km per hour on an 80 road. It eventually becomes too dangerous and the police decide to stop the car chase. Hassan stays away for almost two weeks, but is eventually arrested with another stolen car.

    This time he is placed at the SiS home Klarälvsgården in Värmland (one of 25 landscapes in Sweden). Here, criminal young men between the ages of 16 and 21 should receive care. UG visits the home and meets Head of Department Leif Nilsson.

    Should one be able to escape from this or depart?

    - You should not be able to. It is clear that we cannot prevent all situations, but of course it is very difficult to get out because we have the shell protection we have, he says.

    But during his time at Klarälvsgården, Hassan manages to escape a total of six times. Time and again he commits new crimes, and is brought back by police.

    - We can't have bunkers, we have to follow the legislation to give them some freedom of movement. Every deviation is a failure, both for the individual and for us, says Leif Nilsson.

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    Leif Nilsson

    When Hassan is 16, he undergoes the second trial of his life. He is convicted of a long series of crimes with a total penalty value of 31.5 months in prison. Due to a large discount, so-called youth discount and the principle of two-thirds release, two months of closed youth care will eventually be left. But since Hassan is so young, in the end it will not be closed youth care, but continued treatment at Klarälvsgården.

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    Through, among other things, the amount discount and the youth discount, Hassan's sentence lengths to 2 months.

    Keep reading here.
    https://www.svt.se/nyheter/granskni...-for-221-brott-pa-fyra-ar-och-ar-19-ar-gammal
     
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    The Stockholm Police has initiated cooperation with the American police, 2019-09-17

    https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/stockholm/samarbete-med-amerikansk-polis

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    Regional Police Chief Ulf Johansson, Rick Fuentes of the New Jersey Police Department speaks when the Stockholm Police are holding a press conference on US cooperation against firearms violence. The collaboration is part of the Stockholm Police force's combat of firearms violence.

    The American police are currently in Sweden to assist the Swedish police in reducing the number of shootings. One method can be significantly faster analyzes, something that the New Jersey police have had very good results with.

    - We can conclude that we have a very serious conflict situation. What we are working on in the short term is to get the weapons off the street, every weapon is counted, says Ulf Johansson.

    In the fight to stop the violent violence, the Stockholm Police are now collaborating with the New Jersey State Police and Rutger University in the United States. What is particularly interesting for Swedish police, according to Ulf Johansson, is the handling of the weapons and the ballistic investigations that they have worked hard with in New Jersey.

    - There they had a very long waiting time, in Sweden we have about 150 days, they had something similar, now it has been reduced to 48 hours and it has produced very good results. It will be much easier to find the right perpetrator, who can be the next victim, who has held the weapon and so on, says Ulf Johansson.

    Rick Fuentes, former chief of the New Jersey State Police, now Rutgers University tells that it took ten months from the time they seized a weapon at a crime scene until it was done with photographs, fingerprints, DNA and probation.

    - Once that information reached the police investigator, it had no significance whatsoever for chasing the person who fired the shot, says Rick Fuentes.

    Now that time, through simple changes in the administrative routines, the waiting time has been reduced to 48 hours.

    - This means that the investigator is close in the heels of the offender, says Rick Fuentes.

    Rick Fuentes is convinced that the methods, if the Swedish police introduce them, will have an effect.

    - Every time you get information that can help you solve a crime within two days instead of ten months it will be a profit. When it comes to firearm violence, this will definitely help the Swedish police work faster.
     
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    Congrats on your new militarized police force bro!

    Just remember, whatever you allow them to do to the visitors, whatever freedoms you give up in exchange for safety, will come back to you.
     
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    The Swedish population demands action and less paperwork.

    We are really tired of the fact that one small part of the population does not respect the police and everything else that makes our society work. Less transparency and more lawless violence on the part of the police against persons who have crime as a profession.
     
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    This is how you get got.

    Demanding the chains of your own enslavement. What you should be demanding, is the ability to defend yourself. You have ample evidence, I believe, to assume there is no protection your masters can or will provide you.
     
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    That was some if of the dumbest shit shot I have ever, EVER, read in my life.
     
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    I have come to the view that many of you Americans do not really trust the state and that the state should interfere with the population as little as possible.

    There we are different. We have generally had good confidence in the state and its institutions. But clearly, confidence has gone down over the past 10 years as we have begun to privatize in matters that the state was handling. This has led to both good and bad. With that, I do not want to go into it any further as it becomes political.

    We Swedes still trust that the policemen who work in the country are not corrupt and abuse their power. Of course, there are certainly cases where this is true, but the feeling that the general population trust them is greater than wanting to bury themselves with a few bad apples. With this attitude, we trust that the state will ensure that there are enough police officers and that they will create a calming effect and create security for us. As long as the trust is there, the everyday Swede will not even think of arming himself.
     
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    Just a few years ago it would have been completely alien to me to take the positions @sweede is doing. Today it seems inevitable. Sad state of affairs. But swedes in general are slowly overcoming the reluctancy to face the facts at hand.
     
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    Tough kids, sissy countermeasures.
     
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    There is no hope, just wasting time with this piece of human garbage

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    I think it's useful to discuss this factually without setting the megaphone at the highest level. And then I mean short, taken out of context, doomsday prophecies about Sweden in the world media. And that is not fair for us Swedes and all the good unbiased people in the world who are curious and would like to know more.
     
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    Is the second GIF for real or is it from a RoboCop movie I haven´t seen?
     
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    Sounds like Sweden is giving too many fucks about Hassan and his problems and none about fuckton of not-criminal peoples affected by his existence

    Logic say remove permanently Hassan from Sweden society will benefit Sweden society more than any other approach pro-Hassan
     
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    What provoked me most was his indifference in one of the film clip. He said he did not care about his victims. And it makes me think that he is a psychopath.
     
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