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  1. The ScorpioN "GET OVER HERE!" Yellow Card

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    I called YOU out on the IQ dog whistle not the other way around buddeh, better not let it happen again.
     
  2. Wolf Of Sherdog Brown Belt Professional Fighter

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    How you feel about child marriage though? Is it perfect human behaviour?
     
  3. Wolf Of Sherdog Brown Belt Professional Fighter

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    As long as you dont take responsibility for the actions of the prophet and call him the perfect human being that must be followed of course people see it as you carrying water for extremists. I wonder how you can justify child molesting and caravan robbing and genocide in your head??? Im really curious
     
  4. Yehudim Green Belt

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    Pastoral cultures are inherently violent because for thousands of years, violence was the only means to settle conflict in weakly governed societies where it is extremely easy to steal wealth

    I can easily steal your cows but it isn’t so easy for me to steal your crops. And in a weakly governed desert, the only way for you to bring justice is by hurting me.

    You’ll see similar patterns all around the world in pastoral societies, whether in Asia, Africa, or Europe.
     
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  6. Kaliph of Kush Hashishiyan Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Nomads frequently raided settled people too though, maybe not for crops specifically but for the wealth those societies generated. And violence was not the only means to settle conflicts, mediation was not uncommon. Two parties in a conflict would appeal to a third party that had a good reputation for mediation, a good example being the Prophet(PBUH) himself who was invited to Medina to mediate a conflict there. Of course when that doesn't work then violence is the only other answer.

    Here is an interesting video on nomad culture and its influence on Eurasian culture generally. He also addresses why Eastern Steppe nomads were more inclined towards raiding then the nomads of the Western Steppe
     
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  7. Yehudim Green Belt

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    Whoever introduced you to Thomas Barfield must be a serious thinker

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  9. Yehudim Green Belt

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    You read shit like this and it’s so frustrating that people don’t want to admit that there is a cultural aspect to crime, because it’s viewed as racist even though culture has nothing to do with race.

    Is it systemic racism in Sweden? Is it a lack of welfare? Is it because of Swedish imperialism? Is it because their ancestors were enslaved?

    You put people of similar poverty levels, same race, different culture, and have different results. What explains that?
     
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    What about the child marriage stuff, though? Agree with it?
     
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    Do you morons all think i'm dumb enough to play your bullshit games? lol.

    Child marriage has fuck all to do with the topic at hand.
     
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  12. moosaev Brown Belt

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    Of course there are cultural aspects, where you get of track is when you use culture and religion synonymously. The two are partially related but very distinct things. There is no such thing as "Islamic culture". Islam is practiced very differently in Mali vs China. Its not a uniform thing.

    A typical example of this is the FGM issue. There is literally nothing in Islam that sanctions FGM yet there are some muslim communities that widely practice it for cultural reasons. There are also Christian communities that practice FGM for cultural reasons. But the vast majority of Muslims actually don't practice FGM. In fact, in East Africa there is currently a campaign being driven by religious leaders to stop the practice. Its ironic that while people blame Islam for FGM, it might end up being the reason FGM gets eradicated.
     
  13. moosaev Brown Belt

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    This is organized crime. The Swedish government should set up a task force and crack down hard, deport those that violate the law and sentence people to hard time. Criminal gangs are obviously takin advantage of the fact that Sweden has a reputation as a soft country on criminals.

    This isn't a cultural issue any more than the Mafia in NYC in the beginning of last century was a cultural issue of Italian Americans.
     
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  15. The ScorpioN "GET OVER HERE!" Yellow Card

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    Sweede we need you back! Re-register as sweede2 so the mods can't suspect anything, hide in plain sight.
     
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    Bunch of rambling bullshit that has no relation to the actual world. Bottom line is, Muslims move in, sexual assault goes up. As do other crimes.

    When we came to the US, we wanted to live like Americans. My parents knew that we needed the USA, the USA didn't need our family. And that our extended family, which was a mix of different religions and agnosticism but not fanatical about anything except education, would need to assimilate and contribute to our host.

    When I see ungrateful motherfuckers acting foolish and ghoulish even though they got it relatively made, it really pisses me off. This is why most people stereotype those of us with roots in this region.
     
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