Crime 'Swatter' sentenced to 20 years

[3DayFunk]

Doesn't sound like you're even close toi "with us". That video and article show cops being idiotic and shooting someone who, even if the circumstances were true from the call, shouldn't have just shot the first person who came to the door of a house. They saw no weapon so there's no way you even know if they're one of the hostages. It's pathetic and EVEN IF HE HAD A GUN HE NEVER POINTED ANYTHING AT THEM OR ATTEMPTED TO FIRE ON POLICE, which is the ONLY time a police officer should be firing on a random citizen (or aiming aiming weapons at other citizens).

Beat me to the punch

 

[GearSolidMetal]

I'm glad the standard in my country is not this low.

*Sigh*

Yeah, hopefully a new standard of 'an object must be in a suspect's hand for it to be a justified' for all police shootings will be implemented in the US someday.

Between this situation, and the Arizona hotel police shooting, where both innocent victims were unarmed and reaching down to pull up their pants, lead the police to believe they were reaching for a weapon and shot them dead.

*split second decisions, deadly consequences*

 

[High Altitude]

I really think the standard is too low.

The cop was found not guilty in the la quinta inn at phoenix shooting. If he isn't found guilty, I don't know what a cop has to do to be guilty.

 

[xcvbn]

The cops who shot the guy should get the same sentence.

More proof that the justice system is a complete joke

 

[3DayFunk]

*Sigh*

Yeah, hopefully a new standard of 'an object must be in a suspect's hand for it to be a justified' for all police shootings will be implemented in the US someday.

Between this situation, and the Arizona hotel police shooting, where both innocent victims were unarmed and reaching down to pull up their pants, lead the police to believe they were reaching for a weapon and shot them dead.

*split second decisions, deadly consequences*

Lucky it wasn't a hostage hey

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Doesn't sound like you're even close toi "with us".

Up until I read that article, I was.

That video and article show cops being idiotic and shooting someone who, even if the circumstances were true from the call, shouldn't have just shot the first person who came to the door of a house. They saw no weapon so there's no way you even know if they're one of the hostages. It's pathetic and EVEN IF HE HAD A GUN HE NEVER POINTED ANYTHING AT THEM OR ATTEMPTED TO FIRE ON POLICE, which is the ONLY time a police officer should be firing on a random citizen (or they're aiming aiming weapons at other citizens, which also wasn't happening).

From the article...

"The officer told investigators that he saw Finch throw "his hands up very quickly" to about ear-level, "and almost as soon as he puts his hands up, he brings them back down." The officer said he saw Finch "reach back with his right hand and lift 'the side of his sweatshirt or jacket or whatever it is that's he's wearing'" to his side.

He thought Finch was pulling out a gun, the report says."

Have you ever been close to a shoot-out?
Do you know how quickly a completely safe environment can become the most dangerous situation of your life? As fast as someone can whip out a gun.

Now the shooter of the victim had a rifle and was across the street, was completely safe, but other officers were closer. He made, what we now know to be, a bad call to protect his fellow officers.

 

[brackis1]

Up until I read that article, I was.



From the article...

"The officer told investigators that he saw Finch throw "his hands up very quickly" to about ear-level, "and almost as soon as he puts his hands up, he brings them back down." The officer said he saw Finch "reach back with his right hand and lift 'the side of his sweatshirt or jacket or whatever it is that's he's wearing'" to his side.

He thought Finch was pulling out a gun, the report says."

Have you ever been close to a shoot-out?
Do you know how quickly a completely safe environment can become the most dangerous situation of your life? As fast as someone can whip out a gun.

Now the shooter of the victim had a rifle and was across the street, was completely safe, but other officers were closer. He made, what we now know to be, a bad call to protect his fellow officers.

You're an apologist for an execution by some terrible swat team member who saw nothing that warranted firing a lethal shot at someone who had not been identified with no visible weapon.

 

[3DayFunk]

Up until I read that article, I was.



From the article...

"The officer told investigators that he saw Finch throw "his hands up very quickly" to about ear-level, "and almost as soon as he puts his hands up, he brings them back down." The officer said he saw Finch "reach back with his right hand and lift 'the side of his sweatshirt or jacket or whatever it is that's he's wearing'" to his side.

He thought Finch was pulling out a gun, the report says."

Have you ever been close to a shoot-out?
Do you know how quickly a completely safe environment can become the most dangerous situation of your life? As fast as someone can whip out a gun.

Now the shooter of the victim had a rifle and was across the street, was completely safe, but other officers were closer. He made, what we now know to be, a bad call to protect his fellow officers.

I've been that close to a shoot out as you call it (generally you need 2 parties shooting for a shootout) and there is no excusing firing on a potential hostage.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

You're an apologist for an execution by some terrible swat team member who saw nothing that warranted firing a lethal shot at someone who had not been identified with no visible weapon.

Easy for you to say from the comfort of your keyboard to criticize cops for their split-second decisions.

Doubt you even read the article.

 

[WTF2008]

Several people have been killed by this “prank.” So any of these gamer nerds who get caught using this “prank” should be charged with crimes that amount to similar jail time as attempted murder.

How does this even happen though?
The swat team is basically invading a home based on another gamer's word?

 

[glenwo2]

Punish the person who called the police.....but not the fucker who shot the man dead.

It really pays to be part of the Blue Wall of Bullshit.

 

[Arkain2K]

https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-man-sentenced-to-20-years-for-fatal-swatting-of-kansas-man

A California man was sentenced to 20 years in prison Friday after making fake emergency calls to authorities across the country which led to the fatal shooting of a Kansas man by police.

Tyler R. Barriss, 26, admitted last November to calling Wichita police from Los Angeles in late 2017 to falsely report a shooting and kidnapping at the Kansas home where 28-year-old Andrew Finch lived. He pleaded guilty to a total of 51 federal charges related to fake calls and threats.

Authorities said Finch was not involved in the dispute nor playing the “Call of Duty: WWII” video game when he answered the door. Police said an Ohio gamer recruited Barriss to “swat” – or report a false emergency call to get authorities to descend on an address.

However, the address they used was old.

The intended target in Wichita, Shane Gaskill, 20, and the man who allegedly recruited Barriss, Casey Viner, 19, of North College Hill, Ohio, are charged as co-conspirators.

Authorities say Viner provided Barriss with an address for Gaskill that Gaskill had previously given to Viner. Authorities also say that when Gaskill noticed Barriss was following him on Twitter, he gave Barriss that old address and taunted him to "try something."

Viner and Gaskill pleaded not guilty to charges including conspiracy to obstruct justice, wire fraud and other counts. Viner has notified the court he intends to change that plea at a hearing scheduled for Wednesday. Gaskill's trial has been delayed to April 23 amid plea talks with federal prosecutors.

Finch's family has sued the city of Wichita and the unidentified officers involved. Police have said the officer who shot Finch thought he was reaching for a gun because he moved a hand toward his waistband. Prosecutors declined to charge the officer.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation recognized swatting as an emerging threat as early as 2008, noting it had become commonplace among gamers.

Good. Swatting is full retard. Hopefully this sends a message for idiot gamers who do this

This is one of those rare instances when the entire WR are in agreement.

But since this is the WR, I think the discussion will focus on the police instead of the assholes who called in "hostage situations" for fun.

 

[Arqueto]

Good.

 

[7437]

Easy for you to say from the comfort of your keyboard to criticize cops for their split-second decisions.

Doubt you even read the article.

Fuck the cops. Dude did literally nothing wrong and cops killed him anyways.

 

[nhbbear]

I was like you guys, wondering why there was no focus whatsoever on the cop that shot an unarmed man outside his house.

I found this long and detailed article, explaining the entire situation.

https://amp.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article208738719.html?__twitter_impression=true

In short, this was an absolute tragic situation, but with what the cops knew before the shot was fired, it was a justified shooting.

Yeah, we all wish cops weren't so trigger happy, based on the few situations in which mistakes were made. However we caren't cops, and have no idea what it is like to have our lives on the line, having to make split-second decisions in the amount of time it can take for a suspect could whip out a gun and fire a round.

Once again, this is a tragedy for everyone involved.

One thing is for sure - the family of the victim is going to be pah-pah-pah-pah-PAID in the civil case against the city as they fucking should be.

I do know what it’s like. 17 year veteran police lieutenant in charge of 16 officers on my shift and a district of 15,000 people. I have been in dozens of situations where guns were drawn, suspects were armed, shouted commands were given-often with suspects shouting back and lots of bystanders making things worse, and I have been shot at. In one case, two officers were shot at, with the bullet hitting the small portion of the car between the front door and the rear door. Three inches to the front, and an officer(my former partner of two years) would have been shot in the face.

I have had my gun on dozens of suspects, including two different people during my very first week on the job-one was after a pursuit with a semi truck, the second-two days later, was during a raid on a hotel room where drug dealers were holding a woman against her will. I was second through the door and broke off to the right, entering the first door, which happened to be the bathroom where a guy was taking a piss with a gun on the sink behind him. Add a foot pursuit, and I had a very busy, and interesting first week in uniform.

I can tell you that in these situations, your adrenaline is pumping like you could never imagine. You feel this throbbing in your temples, which fucks with your vision and hearing-called auditory exclusion-where you temporarily lose hearing in one, or both ears. It can make sounds or in this case, commands, distorted. Add tunnel vision, where your peripheral vision is cut down up to 70%, with things happening and unfolding at such a fast rate, and your decision making would normally be. In a weird turn of events, time also seems to slow down or speed up depending on the person. For me, it slows down and then when it is over, everything speeds up and it is like playing catch-up, especially after the adrenaline dump hits and you suddenly become exhausted, your limbs don’t want to work, and you have some memory loss(it often completely or partially comes back over the next few days, usually after sleep).

As for these officers, and the distance at which this happened, in low light, with the nature of the false call-murder with two other potential victims, I completely understand why that officer fired that shot. The officers were not necessarily at immediate risk of harm, even if he had a gun, but the reported hostages is the real issue. You have the suspect in the sights of your scope, and after being told to keep his hands up, his one hand drops out of sight towards the door frame. Combined with the shouting, the distance, the adrenaline and fear(no it is not a cowardly emotion, but a completely normal and natural response),it is scary, confusing and very chaotic , and when combined with such a crazy and dangerous call, made-up or not, the officer took the shot.

Based upon the Graham v Conor factors and the TNv garner cases, I agree with the choice to not charge that officer. He believed that the subject was either going for a gun or going to dart inside the house, which i would have done, then negotiated an exit. But that cop believed that if he did not take that shit, people would die.

As for the ass-stains that called this in: I say voluntary manslaughter for the actual caller, and conspiracy to illicit a crime or
complicitcity-whatever the crime is called there-here, it would be conspiracy to commit manslaughter because this person was the architect of this crime.

These little turds cost a man his life, and they thought it would be funny for a swat team to show up to this guy’s house and kick in his door and arrest or detain him until they figured it out. All because someone got team-killed and that person was angry so he illicited someone to orchastrste this. Bunch of little bitches. In addition to their crimes and ultimate sentences, I believe that their thumbs should be removed, which would greatly restrict their ability to ever play video games or type on a computer forever as well as greatly affecting how they got about in the world. This would affect everything from masturbation to simply grabbing simple objects, and every time they get frustrated that they can’t grab a book off a shelf to not being able to poor milk on cereal very easily-and this will remind them of what they had done. And finally, for the kid that gave the wrong address that ultimately cost a man his life, I believe he may be guilty of reckless endangerment, as at the very least, he thought that he was sending this guy to the wrong house to beat his ass, swat that house, or at the very least, harass an innocent person by sending pizzas or escorts or something else being sent to that house. So he is also guilty.

In closing, fuck these guys with a pineapple

 

[3DayFunk]

I do know what it’s like. 17 year veteran police lieutenant in charge of 16 officers on my shift and a district of 15,000 people. I have been in dozens of situations where guns were drawn, suspects were armed, shouted commands were given-often with suspects shouting back and lots of bystanders making things worse, and I have been shot at. In one case, two officers were shot at, with the bullet hitting the small portion of the car between the front door and the rear door. Three inches to the front, and an officer(my former partner of two years) would have been shot in the face.

I have had my gun on dozens of suspects, including two different people during my very first week on the job-one was after a pursuit with a semi truck, the second-two days later, was during a raid on a hotel room where drug dealers were holding a woman against her will. I was second through the door and broke off to the right, entering the first door, which happened to be the bathroom where a guy was taking a piss with a gun on the sink behind him. Add a foot pursuit, and I had a very busy, and interesting first week in uniform.

I can tell you that in these situations, your adrenaline is pumping like you could never imagine. You feel this throbbing in your temples, which fucks with your vision and hearing-called auditory exclusion-where you temporarily lose hearing in one, or both ears. It can make sounds or in this case, commands, distorted. Add tunnel vision, where your peripheral vision is cut down up to 70%, with things happening and unfolding at such a fast rate, and your decision making process is nowhere near what it would normally be. In a weird turn of events, time also seems to slow down or speed up depending on the person. For me, it slows down and then when it is over, everything speeds up and it is like playing catch-up, especially after the adrenaline dump hits and you suddenly become exhausted, your limbs don’t want to work, and you have some memory loss(it often completely or partially comes back over the next few days, usually after sleep).

As for these officers, and the distance at which this happened, in low light, with the nature of the false call-murder with two other potential victims, I completely understand why that officer fired that shot. The officers were not necessarily at immediate risk of harm, even if he had a gun, but the reported hostages is the real issue. You have the suspect in the sights of your scope, and after being told to keep his hands up, his one hand drops out of sight towards the door frame. Combined with the shouting, the distance, the adrenaline and fear(no it is not a cowardly emotion, but a completely

How do you know the person at the door is the suspect and not a hostage or is everyone the suspect when it comes to you.

 

[irish_thug]

Should have been life. But maybe he'll die in prison.

 

[WTF2008]

I do know what it’s like. 17 year veteran police lieutenant in charge of 16 officers on my shift and a district of 15,000 people. I have been in dozens of situations where guns were drawn, suspects were armed, shouted commands were given-often with suspects shouting back and lots of bystanders making things worse, and I have been shot at. In one case, two officers were shot at, with the bullet hitting the small portion of the car between the front door and the rear door. Three inches to the front, and an officer(my former partner of two years) would have been shot in the face.

I have had my gun on dozens of suspects, including two different people during my very first week on the job-one was after a pursuit with a semi truck, the second-two days later, was during a raid on a hotel room where drug dealers were holding a woman against her will. I was second through the door and broke off to the right, entering the first door, which happened to be the bathroom where a guy was taking a piss with a gun on the sink behind him. Add a foot pursuit, and I had a very busy, and interesting first week in uniform.

I can tell you that in these situations, your adrenaline is pumping like you could never imagine. You feel this throbbing in your temples, which fucks with your vision and hearing-called auditory exclusion-where you temporarily lose hearing in one, or both ears. It can make sounds or in this case, commands, distorted. Add tunnel vision, where your peripheral vision is cut down up to 70%, with things happening and unfolding at such a fast rate, and your decision making process is nowhere near what it would normally be. In a weird turn of events, time also seems to slow down or speed up depending on the person. For me, it slows down and then when it is over, everything speeds up and it is like playing catch-up, especially after the adrenaline dump hits and you suddenly become exhausted, your limbs don’t want to work, and you have some memory loss(it often completely or partially comes back over the next few days, usually after sleep).

As for these officers, and the distance at which this happened, in low light, with the nature of the false call-murder with two other potential victims, I completely understand why that officer fired that shot. The officers were not necessarily at immediate risk of harm, even if he had a gun, but the reported hostages is the real issue. You have the suspect in the sights of your scope, and after being told to keep his hands up, his one hand drops out of sight towards the door frame. Combined with the shouting, the distance, the adrenaline and fear(no it is not a cowardly emotion, but a completely

I guess my question would be, how did it even get to this situation?
Do you have retarded bosses?

 

[WTF2008]

And you pull your gun a lot more than a regular cop should or would.

 

[WarDosAnjos]

I read a few articles about this kid and what a fucking loser. It wasn't just one pank call, he did this again and again and again and bragged about it openly online. Also the police acted brazenly in the wrong here. I'm not saying the cop purposefully murdered the guy but it was very very poor policing and there needs to be reprecussions for being trigger happy