International Surprising no one, Right Wing Dutch coalition goverment has collapsed on cusp of NATO summit

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Wilders stated the goverment's refusal to come to an aggreement on imigration has caused him to withdraw. The problem is that PVV is too right wing for the other right wing parties. The only party entirely on their side is BBB, the farmer party. A problem for PVV is that the one thing all parties agree on is that Wilder's is behaving poorly. NL opinion polls are very active and currently PVV and PVdA (left wingparty that uses socialist symbols) are almost tied.

Likely outcomes:
re-election sees PVV take a stronger majority urging the next formation giving them a stronger position

or

a re-surging left wing alliance take over

or

splinter parties form and there is a bunch of reshuffling until something better is formed

none of the outcomes are not great. PVV has too many unconstitutional policies and wants the authority to change it. The left side don't view immigration as a major issue but quite clearly the public don't agree.

 
Wilders stated the goverment's refusal to come to an aggreement on imigration has caused him to withdraw. The problem is that PVV is too right wing for the other right wing parties. The only party entirely on their side is BBB, the farmer party. A problem for PVV is that the one thing all parties agree on is that Wilder's is behaving poorly. NL opinion polls are very active and currently PVV and PVdA (left wingparty that uses socialist symbols) are almost tied.

Likely outcomes:
re-election sees PVV take a stronger majority urging the next formation giving them a stronger position

or

a re-surging left wing alliance take over

or

splinter parties form and there is a bunch of reshuffling until something better is formed

none of the outcomes are not great. PVV has too many unconstitutional policies and wants the authority to change it. The left side don't view immigration as a major issue but quite clearly the public don't agree.


I don't want to think how many Brits are gonna get suckered into voting for Farage when he's a failed politician and fly by night populist with no policies.

While I'd hate it if he ever got in, I would enjoy the capitulation once in power.

Guy has failed to even become an MP multiple times.

It's one thing to vote for soundbites and policy ideas, but it's quite another to actually put these people in charge of a country.

The rise of incompetent one-concept nationalist parties is going to be disastrous for right wing voters going forward.
 
- It's sad that the names of politicians i read here, are the same of when i was a kid. I thought Brazil had a problem of making politics a hereditary captaincy, but common.
 
I don't want to think how many Brits are gonna get suckered into voting for Farage when he's a failed politician and fly by night populist with no policies.

While I'd hate it if he ever got in, I would enjoy the capitulation once in power.

Guy has failed to even become an MP multiple times.

It's one thing to vote for soundbites and policy ideas, but it's quite another to actually put these people in charge of a country.

The rise of incompetent one-concept nationalist parties is going to be disastrous for right wing voters going forward.
this is a ploy 100 percent. They are making their redaction about migration a priority to show people the other parties won't address it. They will try to gain an over all majority by claiming the other parties were non-negotiable which will allow them to gain the power to breach the consitution.
 
I don't want to think how many Brits are gonna get suckered into voting for Farage when he's a failed politician and fly by night populist with no policies.

While I'd hate it if he ever got in, I would enjoy the capitulation once in power.

Guy has failed to even become an MP multiple times.

It's one thing to vote for soundbites and policy ideas, but it's quite another to actually put these people in charge of a country.

The rise of incompetent one-concept nationalist parties is going to be disastrous for right wing voters going forward.
Britain is just fucked no matter what.

The Conservatives are that in name only

The Reform party can't be taken seriously

The Labour party hates it's native voters and doesn't even try to hide it


Might as well surrender to Pakistan at this point and let them completely take over and get it over with.
 
So what do you think is the most likely result? PVV gains seats or they stray left?

I lost interest when they joined in the coalition. I thought they were being impatient and putting themselves in a no win situation.

Not enough power to do anything based, but taking on enough standing to now share the blame. So I wouldn’t be surprised if they lost support but I would be surprised if any nation decides to go left at this moment.

Sounds like throughout Europe(with the known exception of the United Kuckdom) “left” alone is toxic. People want based or atleast want to be fed false promises of based by a centre right party.
 
So what do you think is the most likely result? PVV gains seats or they stray left?

I lost interest when they joined in the coalition. I thought they were being impatient and putting themselves in a no win situation.

Not enough power to do anything based, but taking on enough standing to now share the blame. So I wouldn’t be surprised if they lost support but I would be surprised if any nation decides to go left at this moment.

Sounds like throughout Europe(with the known exception of the United Kuckdom) “left” alone is toxic. People want based or atleast want to be fed false promises of based by a centre right party.
difficult to say. From the beginning I thought blocking PVV would only benefit them in the election. However, their approval rates dropped due to the refusal to work with the other parties, and the greens saw a resurgance. In order to get what they want they will need an over all majority which is very rare in parliamentry democracies and also dangerous. We're only a few days in and my tiktok timeline is already flooded with PVV campaign ads. They would really be hoping to see an increase in their own seats and the BBB in order to run things. Not a one party system but pretty close. Most likely scenario reading the polls right now would be a green/PVV split, which is more unworkable as PVV couldn't even work with the right wing parties. This is what happened in the EU elections.
 
I don't want to think how many Brits are gonna get suckered into voting for Farage when he's a failed politician and fly by night populist with no policies.

While I'd hate it if he ever got in, I would enjoy the capitulation once in power.

Guy has failed to even become an MP multiple times.

It's one thing to vote for soundbites and policy ideas, but it's quite another to actually put these people in charge of a country.

The rise of incompetent one-concept nationalist parties is going to be disastrous for right wing voters going forward.
Couldn't agree more, the best way to bring about change is to continuously vote for those who refuse to enact any change, any deny there is even a problem.

When someone suggests what need to be changed, we attack them relentlessly in the media and make them unelectable.
 
this is what the intermediate part of european history will look like, for the next 10 years you will have right wing parties slowly growing until they will start winning outright majorities, and a smattering of more irrelevant by the day parties whose only ideology is clinging on to power somehow, without improving the lives of the citizens one bit and allowing more destructive migration to go on because that's the orders from their bosses.
 
this is what the intermediate part of european history will look like, for the next 10 years you will have right wing parties slowly growing until they will start winning outright majorities, and a smattering of more irrelevant by the day parties whose only ideology is clinging on to power somehow, without improving the lives of the citizens one bit and allowing more destructive migration to go on because that's the orders from their bosses.

It's almost like someone wants to make sure Europe stays divided as tiny, easily defeatable individual ethnostates that can be militarily steamrolled one after the other.

People like you will say how smart and noble it is to have no links to other nations or wider alliances because they're a bit annoying.

Then you'll be destroyed.
 
It's almost like someone wants to make sure Europe stays divided as tiny, easily defeatable individual ethnostates that can be militarily steamrolled one after the other.
stop it with the antisemitism.
 
Surely you mean Russophobia?

Not sure the Semites are coming, but interesting you took it there.
russophobia? what, the russians are invading europe now? i thought they're terrible at war. stop posting putin talking points about how russia is capable of militarily invading europe.
 
russophobia? what, the russians are invading europe now?

Fuck.

I forgot you were the guy that capitulated and started saying stupid stuff every time someone responded to you.

Yes, Russia have invaded Europe genius, I'll leave you to whatever rambling you're about to come back with.

One day you might be able to handle the War Room.
 
Fuck.

I forgot you were the guy that capitulated and started saying stupid stuff every time someone responded to you.
lmao @ ME being the one that capitulated when you deleted your account and ran like a bitch.
Yes, Russia have invaded Europe genius, I'll leave you to whatever rambling you're about to come back with.
So your point is they will invade again? When? with what? i thought their military is trash. what a putin bot you are.
One day you might be able to handle the War Room.
you're the one that couldn't handle it and deleted your account, you gimp.

rarely have i seen a post with that much projection lmao.
 
So your point is they will invade again? When? with what? i thought their military is trash. what a putin bot you are.

you're the one that couldn't handle it and deleted your account, you gimp.

How can they invade again?

They are currently invading.

Christ. You are not a person to take seriously.

Imagine taking this insanely stupid stance and calling anyone else a Putin bot. You're pretending he's not attacking Europe RIGHT NOW lmao!
 
It's almost like someone wants to make sure Europe stays divided as tiny, easily defeatable individual ethnostates that can be militarily steamrolled one after the other.

People like you will say how smart and noble it is to have no links to other nations or wider alliances because they're a bit annoying.

Then you'll be destroyed.
You almost figured it out, what your missing is that the ethnostates will not be native born.
 
That makes no sense.

you literally have the most posts in the thread on the topic, slowpoke.
 
How can they invade again?

They are currently invading.

Christ. You are not a person to take seriously.

Imagine taking this insanely stupid stance and calling anyone else a Putin bot. You're pretending he's not attacking Europe RIGHT NOW lmao!
stop derailing this thread with your runaway gimp meltdown. nobody cares.
 
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