Law Supreme Court 6-3 uphold TENN restricting gender transition care for minors

ShadowRun said:
People avoiding this thread , I wonder why
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Well to be frank, it wasn't a really deep ruling. The court here pretty much just differed to the office of the President and held, if he said it's a riot, then who are we to second guess him.

So there isn't too much to unpack there, unless we get into a discussion over how much our federal courts differ to different branches and whether they should engage in more fact finding (and therefore maybe have the courage to actually question whether or not this was a riot or analogous to previous holdings).

Most of these threads devolve into partisans who don't understand the courts, just jumping in to cheer on a win for their side. And flexing about something you don't understand, doesn't make for much of a conversation.
 
Darkballs said:
Well to be frank, it wasn't a really deep ruling. The court here pretty much just differed to the office of the President and held, if he said it's a riot, then who are we to second guess him.

So there isn't too much to unpack there, unless we get into a discussion over how much our federal courts differ to different branches and whether they should engage in more fact finding (and therefore maybe have the courage to actually question whether or not this was a riot or analogous to previous holdings).

Most of these threads devolve into partisans who don't understand the courts, just jumping in to cheer on a win for their side. And flexing about something you don't understand, doesn't make for much of a conversation.
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Yes mostly true, it’s up to the states . Some democrats were mad the decision , I guess I was looking for why they on that hill to die on.
 
IDGETKTFO said:
He's a minor, he doesn't even know what career path he wants to take when he is old enough, let alone what gender he wants to be or not be. This shit is just insane.
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Agreed. It blows my mind that for the entirety of human history we've recognized that children and teenagers don't have the learned sense to know what's best for themselves, and for the past century at least we've been aware that teenagers are particularly emotionally vulnerable because of all their hormonal changes. Yet somehow when it comes to their gender/sexuality, they're unassailable experts?
 
cincymma79 said:
Anyone sane already agrees with the decision. Nothing to discuss
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Lmao what a gotcha from Lil shadowrun.

Yes this was a good decision and I agree children shouldn't be touched.

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Gamer2k4 said:
Agreed. It blows my mind that for the entirety of human history we've recognized that children and teenagers don't have the learned sense to know what's best for themselves, and for the past century at least we've been aware that teenagers are particularly emotionally vulnerable because of all their hormonal changes. Yet somehow when it comes to their gender/sexuality, they're unassailable experts?
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These same people would throw the book at a 20 year old if they had sex with a 17 year old yet its ok for a 10 year old to transition. I am not saying i disagree with the 20 year old getting some jail time, just pointing out the hypocrisy.
 
MrShady said:
Lmao what a gotcha from Lil shadowrun.

Yes this was a good decision and I agree children shouldn't be touched.

/end thread
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So why are there a bunch of democrat politicians outraged at it? You trying to downplay it doesn't change the optics. That's primary school tactics.
 
ShadowRun said:
So why are there a bunch of democrat politicians outraged at it? You trying to downplay it doesn't change the optics. That's primary school tactics.
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Go ahead and link some democrat politicians who nobodies ever heard of being outraged about it.

You're just getting riled up for no reason lol. The average person sees this as a "well duh" and moves on to more important matters...like say bombing and invading countries.
 
Democrats don't have a real platform anymore. All they care about is protecting brown criminals from being prosecuted, erasing america's history, and chopping off cocks to create a genderless utopia. That's their entire platform. They can give lip service to whatever policies they want, but it all comes down to those three things.
 
ShadowRun said:
So why are there a bunch of democrat politicians outraged at it? You trying to downplay it doesn't change the optics. That's primary school tactics.
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Do you think any Dem Politicians post on Shitdog? That grandstanding is political theater, nothing more.

Rational folks do NOT support gender reassignment for minors... full stop.

Now, hormone blockers/hormones? Sure, go nuts, but hard no on permanent surgical changes IMO.
 
I torn on this issue. I think that fucking with hormones and sex changes are fucking risky for children, but we have close friends where their youngest male child clearly feels like a female and has since basically birth. They are catholic and very very republican and they are so conflicted over this it is tough to watch them go through it, but if they chose to transition their child, I think he/she would be happier in life. Puberty scares the hell out of him. He knows they split boys with boys and girls with girls and being forced into one group puts him in panic mode. He/she is clearly going through it and it is biological, not something woke parents pressured him into. I can’t talk politics with the mom because she is so far right, but there is no denying that their boy truly feels like a girl and acts like one.
 
sanguinius said:
Democrats don't have a real platform anymore. All they care about is protecting brown criminals from being prosecuted, erasing america's history, and chopping off cocks to create a genderless utopia. That's their entire platform. They can give lip service to whatever policies they want, but it all comes down to those three things.
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How about just giving all humans (Including the Brown ones) due process?
How about not starting wars and actually helping our long term allies defend against our long term enemies?
How about a focus on affordable housing/food?
How about supporting the Middle class?
How about not giving tax breaks to Billionaires on the backs of the lower and middle classes?
How about protecting citizens instead of dismantling all the historical protections of citizens and the environment?
How about expanding healthcare/education to all instead of reserving it only for the wealthy?

I can tell you that the Democratic agenda is NOT to destroy the media/education/healthcare/legal systems.
It's not the Dems that are trying to basically ignore the constitution. It's not the Dems that have absolutely forsaken middle America.

But, maybe I'm mistaken, and you are some Billionaire that just hangs out on S-dog for lols? Or maybe you're a Russian troll, in which case, you can likely idenitfy with Maga, because you are the enemy of the American people as well. Or, perhaps you're just a poor, dumb, indoctrinated fool watching the destruction of democracy willingly. Perhaps that is "winning" to you?

If you don't "get" that Maga is your enemy... that's on you. None of this shit is hidden.
 
CatchnShoot said:
It's not the Dems that are trying to basically ignore the constitution. It's not the Dems that have absolutely forsaken middle America.
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Yeah, that's why they won. Their unwavering support for middle America...oh' wait, LOL.

And they totally didn't want to destroy the media...they just wanted a ministry of truth.

You guys are ridiculous.
 
nhbbear said:
I torn on this issue. I think that fucking with hormones and sex changes are fucking risky for children, but we have close friends where their youngest male child clearly feels like a female and has since basically birth. They are catholic and very very republican and they are so conflicted over this it is tough to watch them go through it, but if they chose to transition their child, I think he/she would be happier in life. Puberty scares the hell out of him. He knows they split boys with boys and girls with girls and being forced into one group puts him in panic mode. He/she is clearly going through it and it is biological, not something woke parents pressured him into. I can’t talk politics with the mom because she is so far right, but there is no denying that their boy truly feels like a girl and acts like one.
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Has since birth? wtf

Kid is just going to grow up gay. Is what it is.
 
MMA IAN said:
Permanelty disfiguring yourself is apparently an acceptable solution to many, children or not
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Adults can make their own (dumb) decisions. Children can't drive, join the army, buy cigarettes, or alcohol, but apparently Liberals seem to think they can mutilate their bodys.
 
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