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Hello, i plan on sticking to the 5x5 routine created by Bill Star, but i also want to do a few more mma related exercises. Im just unsure if doing the following will hinder my results?

-Pushing a prowler
-Kettlebell clean and jerks
-Farmers walk
-Kettlebell snatch
-Picking up a large awkward object, taking it upto one shoulder, dropping it then repeating to other shoulder
-Turkish get-ups
-Flipping a big tire

I've read that alot of the above are great exercises for mma and im just not sure if it would be alright to do them on my gym days (tuesday, thursday and saturday). I would pick a random exercise from above and do it for about 10 minutes straight after my workout, picking a new one each day.

Sorry if this is question has a really obvious answer lol.

Oh and im unsure if my body's getting enough R&R time, i feel fine and never really tired or fatigued.

monday: mma (sparring, bjj, pads, bag work, muay thai etc etc).
tuesday: gym
Wednesday: mma
Thursday: gym
Friday: mma
saturday:gym
sunday:rest

I go for a 15-20 minute jog every night on weekdays and do alot of ab/core exercises every morning on weekdays.

Thanks for the help :)
 
If you are doing gym/mma pretty much every day, i'm not sure if doing extra on top will benefit you, as i can't see when you're body will recover and it might hinder mma training. I'm guilty of same, because i'm really motivated and want to train until i can't lift my arms, but i know it's doing me more harm than good.
 
Zorbario said:
If you are doing gym/mma pretty much every day, i'm not sure if doing extra on top will benefit you, as i can't see when you're body will recover and it might hinder mma training. I'm guilty of same, because i'm really motivated and want to train until i can't lift my arms, but i know it's doing me more harm than good.
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Would you reccommend i stick with the 5x5 and ignore the other exercises i stated below it?
 
How long have you been following Bill Starr's 5x5 (There are many different routines that go by that name. Could you post a link to the specific one you're following)?

A conditioning finisher would be a reasonable thing to include. If you read the FAQ, specifically the bit by Glenn Pendlay, some more options are described. However, I'd suggest getting used to your current routine first, before adding anything more.
 
bikefreak said:
Would you reccommend i stick with the 5x5 and ignore the other exercises i stated below it?
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What Tosa has said below.

Basically depends how advanced you are in your training/conditioning.

If you have been training for a while and are competant at you MMA skills, then MMA specific exercises could help. But they are really only needed for someone who is quite adept.

Prior to that, focussing on your conditioning, core and main muscle groups would benefit more. I think of MMA specific training as 'tweaking' your body and that you are already well rounded.
 
Tosa said:
How long have you been following Bill Starr's 5x5 (There are many different routines that go by that name. Could you post a link to the specific one you're following)?

A conditioning finisher would be a reasonable thing to include. If you read the FAQ, specifically the bit by Glenn Pendlay, some more options are described. However, I'd suggest getting used to your current routine first, before adding anything more.
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Eclipse Gym :: View topic - Bill Starr 5x5 Primer - How to create your own 5x5 program the first routine is the one im following, and im only on week one. Thanks for the feedback
 
Zorbario said:
Bloody hell, im reading that now, it's one long read isn't it.

It's annoyed me now, because it's made me rethink what i'm doing lol. Saying that, i'm focussed on conditioning for Muay Thai/MMA training, the muscles will come naturally. Grr, doubts flooding my mind.
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Ahaha yeah its quite long. Yeah i know how you feel lol... How long have you been training in Muay Thai for?
 
bikefreak said:
Ahaha yeah its quite long. Yeah i know how you feel lol... How long have you been training in Muay Thai for?
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I meant i'm training before Muay Thai. In past with Jui Jitsu, Kung fu, etc, i would gas out fast and go all dizzy. So i'm prepping myself to go at it full throttle. Would be nothing worse than being there for 10 minutes, then sitting out watching everyone else lol. My training at the moment is everyday (which is bad idea), however, i am doing HIIT and it lasts 20-30 mins. I am not training to failure with weights, i am training to failure with endurance, which i think is different. Would love to ehar opinions on this though.

Which is why i am less focussed on max strength. I don't want anything to kill my endurance or slow me down. Once i've got settled in my MMA training, i'll start focussing on improving my max strength more. At the moment i want explosive strength though and the endurance to keep going.

In my eyes, the longer i last, the more training i can do and the circle continues.
 
bikefreak said:
Hello, i plan on sticking to the 5x5 routine created by Bill Star, but i also want to do a few more mma related exercises. Im just unsure if doing the following will hinder my results?

-Pushing a prowler
-Kettlebell clean and jerks
-Farmers walk
-Kettlebell snatch
-Picking up a large awkward object, taking it upto one shoulder, dropping it then repeating to other shoulder
-Turkish get-ups
-Flipping a big tire...
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Seriously, which of the above is an "mma related exercise"?
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Zorbario said:
I meant i'm training before Muay Thai. In past with Jui Jitsu, Kung fu, etc, i would gas out fast and go all dizzy. So i'm prepping myself to go at it full throttle. Would be nothing worse than being there for 10 minutes, then sitting out watching everyone else lol. My training at the moment is everyday (which is bad idea), however, i am doing HIIT and it lasts 20-30 mins. I am not training to failure with weights, i am training to failure with endurance, which i think is different. Would love to ehar opinions on this though.

Which is why i am less focussed on max strength. I don't want anything to kill my endurance or slow me down. Once i've got settled in my MMA training, i'll start focussing on improving my max strength more. At the moment i want explosive strength though and the endurance to keep going.

In my eyes, the longer i last, the more training i can do and the circle continues.
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I think you should just start training Muay Thai. The time you are spending trying to get ready for MT is a waste, it's time you could be spending learning the basic techniques in a proper MT or MMA gym. If you find yourself gassing and having to take breaks that just means you need to learn to pace yourself better. Also, the cardio that you gain from doing your own conditioning work will have less carry over to MT than actually doing MT will (i.e. kicking and punching pads/bags). It will help but it's still a less than optimal use of time.

Also, there's no point in trying to work on explosive strength if you don't already have a decent base of strength to build on.
 
DrBdan said:
I think you should just start training Muay Thai. The time you are spending trying to get ready for MT is a waste, it's time you could be spending learning the basic techniques in a proper MT or MMA gym. If you find yourself gassing and having to take breaks that just means you need to learn to pace yourself better. Also, the cardio that you gain from doing your own conditioning work will have less carry over to MT than actually doing MT will (i.e. kicking and punching pads/bags). It will help but it's still a less than optimal use of time.

Also, there's no point in trying to work on explosive strength if you don't already have a decent base of strength to build on.
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I agree, but the gym i'll be going to is moving base, which will mean it is unavailable for probably another week. But my god, the trainers they got on board look shit hot for what i would expect in my tiny location, imho anyway.

It's more preparation. I'm getting into the mindset of pushing myself and working through soreness each day. Also, even just a fortnight will help prevent a shock to the system of sudden heavy activity from relatively zero. So in a way, i am easing myself into it, learning what my body can handle, knowing how far i can push. Last thing i want is an injury after a week because i went berzerko off the bat (which i will, no matter how many times i say to myself "stop comparing yourself to others").

So, i decided on a 2 week bedding in period, also because i get paid end of week, so can get the essential gear ready, so everything makes sense this way. Shopping List:

*Hayabusa Hybrid gloves:
 
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