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Submissions 101: comments to youtube videos

Discussion in 'Grappling Technique' started by Luther, May 25, 2008.

  1. Luther

    Luther Green Belt

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    I've added a few comments to their vids, and they never show up. My comments were not rude or anything like that, just technical discussion. E.g: in the following vid, in reply to a comment saying that GSP used this technique against Serra, I clarified that the under-over position was the other way around -- the way it's showed on the clip exposes your back.

    YouTube - Sprinter Escape: How to Escape the Lock Down (half guard)


    This is not the first time a legit comment of mine do not get approved. I understand it's their choice, but if you look it seems they want to build an internet reputation just allowing good, positive comments.

    Has this happened to you?
     
  2. Calibur

    Calibur Jiu Jitsu Snob

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    I've put comments up and they have always gotten through after a day or too. My comments only offered constructive criticism. Nothing very negative, or complimentary.

    If they really are moderating for negative feedback that would explain why responses seem to only come from garage grapplers and noobs.
     
  3. DougSupreme

    DougSupreme White Belt

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    are you djiq31 on YouTube? I see your comment. you might not have waited long enough
     
  4. Luther

    Luther Green Belt

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    No I'm LutBLisset, and I posted the comment quite a few days ago. Then I reposted yesterday.

    But this is the third time one of my comments is deleted.

    One time I politely pointed out an error in one of their replies, and they edited their reply without showing my message.

    Anyway even if I not agree, I'm perfectly fine with moderating comments, it's their space after all.

    Just asking for your feedback.
     
  5. Teedoh74

    Teedoh74 Black Belt

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    I see one of your comments, says it was posted a week ago.
     
  6. Luther

    Luther Green Belt

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    OMG, they just added it, this is hilarious!


    Also look, djiq31 comment disappeared!
     
  7. Calibur

    Calibur Jiu Jitsu Snob

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    Shows how much confidence they have if they won't let people say what they want.
     
  8. Teedoh74

    Teedoh74 Black Belt

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    That technique used there is begging for your back to being taken. One of the comments there says Lovato teaches it. Would like a second opinion.
     
  9. Afrofeet

    Afrofeet Green Belt

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    no probably lovato teaches right way, not like this. Its wrong
     
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    AnOddParadigm Blue Belt

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    If you don't look at the details, this pass looks right. A white or even a blue belt would probably thinks this pass looks like the correct versions. The difference is small, but enough to make this technique useless. If you ever tried to pass with the over under reversed on anyone with a clue on how to use underhooks, you are gonna lose the position. If they ever rolled and tried to use this pass they would have realized it is incorrect.

    I know a lot of people who are knew to jiu jitsu love them as a resource, but that is the whole problem. They do things that look right UNLESS you are an experienced grappler.
     
  11. AnOddParadigm

    AnOddParadigm Blue Belt

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    If you don't look at the details, this pass looks right. A white or even a blue belt would probably thinks this pass looks like the correct versions. The difference is small, but enough to make this technique useless. If you ever tried to pass with the over under reversed on anyone with a clue on how to use underhooks, you are gonna lose the position. If they ever rolled and tried to use this pass they would have realized it is incorrect.

    I know a lot of people who are knew to jiu jitsu love them as a resource, but that is the whole problem. They do things that look right UNLESS you are an experienced grappler.
     
  12. kumite

    kumite Orange Belt

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    I just watched this video last night because a guy at our school is HUGE Eddie Bravo's stuff and I was looking for a way to pass/escape the rubber guard once it's locked on. I see what Luther is saying on the over/under hooks. Could you not simply keep shoulder pressure to the far side until you escape or do you absolutley have to reverse the over/under hooks as from the way the are shown on the video?
     
  13. ScottErie**

    ScottErie** Electric Eyes

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    If you do not reverse the over under your back will be taken, shoulder pressure will not help and may actually hurt as you will only be turning his head the way he wants anyway
     
  14. EndoG

    EndoG Blue Belt

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    Just to be clear the reason you need to reverse them isn't especially esoteric (unless there is also an esoteric reason...). As a general rule in 1/2 guard you want the underhook on the side of the trapped leg (be you on top or bottom).

    The bottom person is trying to get up on his side (which pretty much has to be the side of the trapped leg) and under you. The underhook and "shoulder of justice" are your two main ways to prevent that. You could try keeping pressure on his head so he's facing in the direction of the trapped leg while doing the above escape, but I don't imagine you'd have great luck -- better too keep the underhook. (You can also use the bottom of the trapped side lapel to help you if it's gi, but anyway...)
     
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    Slithers Green Belt

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    I wonder how long this video will last when they realize they messed up.
     
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    txfighter13 Purple Belt

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    They are good nothing to fancy. just straight forward information that you can use in your game. I am more of position person over the submission, but it still helps me when it comes to getting the submission 100% correct.
     
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    Trickster*** Banned Banned

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    IMO don't do things publically if you can not take the publics feedback! Its like using your first amendment right but then not allowing others to use theirs. But that's the internet for ya!

    I dont believe in ANY moderation on public forums! If it has to do with the topic it should be allowed. If its porn or something retarded thats different but ALL point of views should be heard. Otherwise you have the control to mislead people, which is ALL to common lately!

    BTW I check submission 101's page all the time and love their videos but they should chill out and leave all comments up, the GOOD BJJ's guys will not care about the comments anyway, they will take whatever part of the move helps them and they will leave the rest. I for one never read a Youtube comment!
     

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