Subjectivity in Rogan's commentating

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  1. RexChapmanFan

    RexChapmanFan Green Belt

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    I'm not a big critic or fan of Joe Rogan, but after viewing the Jones-Cormier fight, I do wonder whether his commentating is too subjective in noting which fighter is doing more damage.

    I just remember him commenting that Jones continual elbows to DC in the clinch were so deadly and ghastly. But he had a far weaker reaction to DC's uppercut in the clinch, as if they were less severe.

    I am no expert, but I would guess the uppercuts were at least as forceful as the elbows. But it is easy to get wrapped in Rogan's subjective take and possibly get a skewed outlook on fights.

    Rogan is often called.out for favoring fighters just because he apparently likes them better. But I also find problematic his personal views on which tactics allegedly hurt the most or are most effective. I thought in this case that DC deserved more credit than he received.
     
  2. Da Speeit

    Da Speeit CANCEROUS POSTER Platinum Member

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    His commentating is horrible these days, it really is. The Jones/Cormier fight was awful. He really offers no insight or analysis on what is actually going on, just "BRUUUUTALLLL elbow by Jones"
     
  3. estranged

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    yeah I find it annoying at times
     
  4. Emjay

    Emjay And again and again and again and ag.. zzzzzzzz

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    There's no way to tell to what extent "damage" is being done (for the most part) so it shouldn't matter what Rogan says
     
  5. Kertol

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    Rogan is not that bright, must be from all the pot.
     
  6. LynchRippin

    LynchRippin Brown Belt

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    First time I've seen this post...
     
  7. Kertol

    Kertol Brown Belt

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    It was a close fight. Rogan did the same during Machida-Shogun 1.
     
  8. EXlLE**

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    Youd think he would be biased towards the manlet
     
  9. Kirin

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    Spot on, playa. I commented on this several times in our pbp discussion. It was nauseating listening to rogaine repeated slurps jones's balls.
     
  10. JayElectra

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    He talked about a lot of things landing big for both fighters in Jones/Cormier that either flat out didn't land, or were at best grazing shots. A big problem with Rogan is that he likes to stick to a certain pre-conceived narrative when he commentates (which is hard to avoid for anyone, I know, but it's something that really pervades Rogan's commentary more than others) and that often involves distorting events to fit said narrative.
     
  11. Ricki

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    Powerful commentary from Goldy though.
     
  12. BROWNPRIDE

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    Yea sometime I order it in Spanish cause if you listen to him and goldie they are that way with the ufc cash cows.
     
  13. Emjay

    Emjay And again and again and again and ag.. zzzzzzzz

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    Which is probably by design from a production perspective. People (not saying you) like to bash Joe for this when this could be the producer's doing.
     
  14. Hans Gercmiov

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    I try to listen for the bias that people here talk about, I really don't hear it. Maybe I'm just not as influenced as some claim he has the ability to do.
     
  15. MilesAbove

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    Holy f'n Christ. If you don't like Rogan do what I do whenever Anik and Stann are talking and turn off the sound.
     
  16. JayElectra

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    True. I've always found it to be a bit of a conflict of interests for the promotion to enlist its own commentators. In boxing it's the networks not the promotions who employ the commentators and often you'll hear a lot more balanced and critical commentary as a result. Of course, it's not as if the networks don't have their own agendas and people they want to push themselves, so it quickly becomes obvious that there will always be some bias and pre-conceived push for someone, but I think one could hope for more tempered biases than what have gotten from Rogan as of late.
     
  17. Kertol

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    Rogan and Goldie are still better then any of the other commentators in the ufc. Ufc should employ the bellator announcers and frank mir, those guys are great.
     
  18. tsully

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    I just don't get how so many people can't grasp the fact that he's sitting ringside and only gets to see one view of the fight that may be blocked by a ref, a post or just a terrible angle where he can't see what all is going on.

    Sure he can watch his small 5x5 screen instead of watching the fights live from the best seats in the house, but then again you can just turn off your sound and stop crying about something that's completely irrelevant to the outcome of the fight.
     
  19. lts5025

    lts5025 "What the **** is a Dim Mack?"

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    So does Rogan have a seat with a terrible angle with a sometimes-blocked view or does he have the best seat in the house? Which is it?
     
  20. JayElectra

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    It's irrelevant to the outcome, yes, but it's certainly not irrelevant to the enjoyment of a spectator sport. I mean, it's not some catastrophe, but I think MMA is a spectator sport and the commentary of said sport is something which is rather relevant to the overall enjoyment of the product. It's not exactly a ridiculous thing to discuss on an MMA forum.
     

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