Stroke from Rear Naked Choke or collar choke?

[gannas]

So I'm watching the today show and they do a segment about kids doing the "choke game". Basically they choke themselves (idiots) or have someone else choke them till they are about to pass out.

I'm watching this video in which they say simply cutting off the blood/oxygen supply aka applying a choke, you kill brain cells, potentially could suffer a stroke and a bunch of other crap..

I'm wondering how much of this is boogyman stuff to scare kids and how much is backed by medical evidence.

GASP: Movie

 

[fiftysvn]

I never get to the point where I'm about to pass out. I usually tap when I know I'm caught. With the exception of this one time where I thought I was fine, then all of a sudden I felt like I was about to slip out of consciousness . . . luckily I tapped in time though.

I think if you tap early, you should be fine.

 

[DaRuckus337]

Not likely that you would suffer serious ischemia from a choke. People simply don't hold chokes that long in grappling sports. The biggest risk from that goofy choke game comes not from the choke itself but from head injuries following unconsciousness.

 

[TMMAray]

In short: it's one of those things that *can* happen, that people then restate as something that *will* happen.

With that having been said, kids did that retarded shit when I was in middle school, and there was a big deal about it when some idiots were doing it and the one who got choked out fell down the bleachers...then there was a big assembly where the counselor and the nurse talked out of their asses warning us of the dangers of it.

Scarfing, on the other hand, is a serious threat, and our children should be warned that if you're into autoerotic asphyxiation, make sure to do it in a way so that the choke will loosen when you pass out :redface:

 

[gannas]

According to the vid simply applying the choke can cause serious damage. Also I think back to one of my tournaments where I was caught in a triangle and I was trying to escape. I didn't pass out but the guy had it on for a long ass time.

 

[DaRuckus337]

According to the vid simply applying the choke can cause serious damage. Also I think back to one of my tournaments where I was caught in a triangle and I was trying to escape. I didn't pass out but the guy had it on for a long ass time.

That video is for children, and is designed to primarily to scare them. The medical and physiological reality is pretty different from what is being presented.

 

[gannas]

That video is for children, and is designed to primarily to scare them. The medical and physiological reality is pretty different from what is being presented.

True but I think it also hurts our sport. Especially when they give these scare tatics national TV exposure.

 

[DaRuckus337]

True but I think it also hurts our sport. Especially when they give these scare tatics national TV exposure.

Well, it's not good for the sport when misconceptions about the health risks are spread, but that's really not what this PSA is about. 12 year olds shouldn't be playing with blood chokes. They are young and stupid and have no training in using them, and when they are using foreign objects like scarves, towels and ropes to simulate the choking effects, the risks are only magnified. I don't think discouraging this choke game by using exaggerated claims is necessarily going to reflect badly on an organized, supervised sport like bjj or judo.

 

[animalboy]

I love playing California High

 

[Jessi.2]

supposedly you can have a stroke for leaning your head back in the sink at a beauty parlor. they say this is even more common than a stroke from a chiropractor cracking your neck. However you have a better chance of getting hit my lighting than the previous two.

FEAR aka the media


I think it is very rare based on the numbers...they are just trying to get kids to stop doing it (rightfully so) so they will inflate the consequences just like they do with weed