I was just wondering if any of you that took a traditional martial art for a long time and got a 2nd or higher Dan rank, did you learn anything new? The formal school I trained, oddly enough, they started teaching a little sparring strategy. After about 4 years of doing forms and self defense moves, they would start showing you how to parry punches and how to set up a roundhouse kick, and maybe sparring harder. Another place I was at briefly, the higher black belts worked on tricks for demo team, like jump split kicks with punch to break three boards while hopping over a chair - stuff like that. What did you learn from your black belt training? Did anyone think that their karate / tkd / kung fu training was highly effective, and did you feel like what you were learning was still highly effective past black belt? With so many MMA people here, I have a feeling that there might be a lot of "no." The gym I'm at now has a lot of people, at least half a dozen, who got their black belts and bailed for a BJJ gym.