Reasoning behind this?rickdog said:I would imagine strengthening the back would help immensly with punching power but not so much with speed.
Interesting...Rjkd12 said:You quoted me close. I think I said that you quickly will see gains in the beginning, but after that they will slow down. I think you shouldn't lift for punching power, you should work on technique. You should lift for strength which will indirectly increase your punching power. I still think that you should work mostly on whole body stuff as your shoulders and trunk muscles will contribute a lot more to the power than the triceps.
That theory that the body will only punch as fast at it can slow you down sounds specious to me. It is a pretty sounding theory but doesn't make sense. Two reasons. First off slowing down a punch is eccentric work, and we all know a person can create a lot more strength with eccentric work. Second, even assuming your biceps were 2x or more your triceps you still have connective tissue and bone that can absorb the energy to stop a punch.
Increasing power but not speed is ludicris considering power is work/time, which is speedXdistance/time. Even if you didn't mean the words to be used with their exact definition, it still doesn't make sense.
This could be irrevelant that it only relates to what the muscles is capable of.Rjkd12 said:Second, even assuming your biceps were 2x or more your triceps you still have connective tissue and bone that can absorb the energy to stop a punch.
Your must love your joints.ChrisDracula said:Have you tried punching with weights, that helps me punch faster
Whoa really? That is absolutely atonishing!!! I didn't know that at all!!!!OpethDrums said:i know most guys dont care about endurance but the reason shadow boxing and stuff like that is the best because even if you had the strongest muscles in the world.. they would be useless once they tired out which wouldnt take long for most people. you want to be able to keep the speed that you had throwing your first punch because thats where a lot of the power comes from, the speed.
I didnt know that was bad for your jointsTed-P said:Your must love your joints.
Ted-P said:Interesting...
I was thinking about the theory and I felt my bicep contract when I was punching. And I was doing push ups and tricep presses I didn't feel it really contract. I was thinking maybe it isn't totally eccentric at all. Yes I know it's stupid, presumptious, speculative and primitive at best, but I at best have a barely touching the surface knowledge about kinesiology.