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Street Fights...on the topic would BJJ help....

Discussion in 'Grappling Technique' started by 879lexus, Sep 13, 2010.

  1. 879lexus

    879lexus Blue Belt

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    On the topic of 'Would BJJ help'...here's some more fights....

    Check out the guy who tried the armbar and got slammed on the concrete and his head busted open...



     
  2. lechien

    lechien Gold Belt

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    Are you are referring to the fight between PRO MMA fighters in the ultimate fighter house?

    bottom guy forgot to hook the leg to avoid the slam.
     
  3. 879lexus

    879lexus Blue Belt

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    yeah, i know they were pro, but that could still happen on the street...right? What else is someone stuck in an armbar going to do..try to pull their hand out and lift you.... I dunno...makes me think about going to the ground in a street fight.
     
  4. Number1Wrestler**

    Number1Wrestler** Green Belt

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    The BEST possible example of BJJ working in a street fight is Krazy Horse vs. Christiano Marcello.
     
  5. lechien

    lechien Gold Belt

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    In theory, BJJ or more like GJJ was about clinching and take the front to ground where your ground skills would be better that your opponent.

    It is a theory that was proven against unskilled opponents in grappling.

    get to mount, unload, wait to turn on his belly and choke. You can see in Gracie in Action.

    I do not think they said to pull guard and attempt triangle and armbar without hooking the leg to avoid the slam.
     
  6. Hogey

    Hogey Black Belt

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    Yeah BJJ would be horrible in a street fight for that you need thugjitsu
     
  7. Darkslide632

    Darkslide632 Brown Belt

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    I think the argument is... he's a pro fighter and forgot to hook the leg, what are the chances Joe Average is going to remember.

    It's a risk. It's one of the reasons I think that there should be rules implemented that either 1) allow slamming out of armbars, or 2) cause a restart if the guy on bottom is lifted a certain amount. He's obviously lost control at that point, IMO.

    *Shrug* Strike and you take the chance of getting tagged by some random windmill. Fighting is a risky proposition.
     
  8. AirCorps

    AirCorps White Belt

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    What a bunch of damn idiots!
     
  9. lechien

    lechien Gold Belt

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    that has been one of my dilemma.

    allow slam or create a rule to cause a restart a la judo.

    option 1 would mean people would learn the proper technique but at the cost of some nasty bad experience/injury.

    option 2 could mean people would just rely on the lift.

    regarding the application on average joe, it could go either way. He does not how to defend it and get his arm streched or he get the slam.
     
  10. lechien

    lechien Gold Belt

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    pretty much.

    put grown up men who get paid to fight in the same house for 6 weeks and fill them up with alcohol!
     
  11. GSparky

    GSparky Green Belt

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    If your the black guy getting beat up by the big black girl at the end of the 2nd video, I think it will take way more than BJJ to help you. I don't even know where to start with you. LOL!
     
  12. Proteus900

    Proteus900 Blue Belt

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    You never want to be on the bottom in a street fight. No matter how good your BJJ is there is far too much chance of getting slammed onto concrete as happend in the video. There is a reason that you train takedowns, so you can get on top.
     
  13. Daveb

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    Nowadays anyone can be a pro fighter, it doesn't mean they're particularly talented or skilled. The guy who got slammed on TUF is Noah Thomas. I beat him in under a minute in a tournament 2 weeks after receiving my Blue belt. This was after he'd been on TUF.

    Jiu Jitsu is perfect, its people who make the mistakes
     
  14. lechien

    lechien Gold Belt

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    thanks for the update.

    that confirmed my doubt on Noah BJJ skills as well.

    I have 2 guys that gonna fight mma and they just took about a month of BJJ with us.
     
  15. GSparky

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    Can you post the video of your fight with Noah? I'm sure a lot of people would like to watch it. If not, is there some where that we can go to watch it?
     
  16. Daveb

    Daveb Green Belt

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    It amazes me how any jackass off the street can get a pro mma fight. I have met so many people who have absolutely no knowledge or skill in stand up or groundfighting who have had pro fights.
    I want to fight mma but have always told myself I'll wait until I'm at least a purple belt just so I don't embarrass myself or my team
     
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    I have seen many guys fighting MMA with no training in BJJ.

    In fact, I have 2 guys which are going to fight MMA with just couple of months of BJJ training in my club.
     
  20. maravillin

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    the whole gaining mount and more advantageous positions is jiu jitsu.. its not just submissions
     

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