Matt Thornton
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Now, I'm mostly with the guys on Sherdog. I'm no fantasizer; I know that against a gun or knife, your chances are slim.
But, as a former Krav Maga student, let me shed some light on it. I may have left Krav Maga, but my reason for doing so was because I'm 16 years old and I live in the suburbs. Streetfights where I have to seriously worry about my life are rare around here; the most I've experienced is a locker room disagreement that ended with me guillotining someone. I'm more interested in competition fighting, so I turned to MMA.
Krav Maga however, is probably the first self defense system (it's really self defense, not fighting) that takes a realistic approach to knife defense.
Take a close look at what Mirada said. He never saw the knife. 9 out of 10 knife victims will tell you the same damn thing. That's what we were always taught at Krav. Because of that, in Krav Maga, all punches are treated as knife attacks. There are defenses for if you see the knife, but because that's rare, most of the knife defenses are the same as punch defenses.
Looping, haymaker type punches are blocked with the forearm. But not exaggerated karate style. It's quick, and you immediately counter with an elbow to the face. That was the cool thing about Krav Maga. The defense was always simple and easy to remember. They didn't bother with teaching you the rest. They taught "Combatives," which were basically all the punches, kicks, elbows, palm strikes, hammerfists, knees, etc., and once you got rid of the immediate threat (being choked, being punched), you make up the rest as you go along with your combatives. So you stop the oncoming punch/stab and counter, and from there just go all out until he stops moving or until you can run away.
No, I don't think Krav Maga, or any self defense system is an omnipotent cure to all violent attacks. But like my idol Bas Rutten always says "If you don't shoot, you'll always miss."
That's all I'm going to say about the whole thing, because I saw RBSD (Reality Based Self Defense) systems coming into discussion here, so I thought I'd use it as an opportunity to explain Krav Maga, because it's gotten such a bad rap on these forums. Mirada, I'm not going to tell you what you could have or should have done. Firstly because I don't think there was much that you could have done, and secondly because even if there was, you wouldn't give a shit. And if I was in the same position, I wouldn't give a shit either. You could've died because of some idiot with a knife, and the last thing you wanna hear is some Self-Defense guru or a keyboard warrior who's never gotten in any real street fights telling you "Well if you did this this and this, you could've stopped him."
But, as a former Krav Maga student, let me shed some light on it. I may have left Krav Maga, but my reason for doing so was because I'm 16 years old and I live in the suburbs. Streetfights where I have to seriously worry about my life are rare around here; the most I've experienced is a locker room disagreement that ended with me guillotining someone. I'm more interested in competition fighting, so I turned to MMA.
Krav Maga however, is probably the first self defense system (it's really self defense, not fighting) that takes a realistic approach to knife defense.
Take a close look at what Mirada said. He never saw the knife. 9 out of 10 knife victims will tell you the same damn thing. That's what we were always taught at Krav. Because of that, in Krav Maga, all punches are treated as knife attacks. There are defenses for if you see the knife, but because that's rare, most of the knife defenses are the same as punch defenses.
Looping, haymaker type punches are blocked with the forearm. But not exaggerated karate style. It's quick, and you immediately counter with an elbow to the face. That was the cool thing about Krav Maga. The defense was always simple and easy to remember. They didn't bother with teaching you the rest. They taught "Combatives," which were basically all the punches, kicks, elbows, palm strikes, hammerfists, knees, etc., and once you got rid of the immediate threat (being choked, being punched), you make up the rest as you go along with your combatives. So you stop the oncoming punch/stab and counter, and from there just go all out until he stops moving or until you can run away.
No, I don't think Krav Maga, or any self defense system is an omnipotent cure to all violent attacks. But like my idol Bas Rutten always says "If you don't shoot, you'll always miss."
That's all I'm going to say about the whole thing, because I saw RBSD (Reality Based Self Defense) systems coming into discussion here, so I thought I'd use it as an opportunity to explain Krav Maga, because it's gotten such a bad rap on these forums. Mirada, I'm not going to tell you what you could have or should have done. Firstly because I don't think there was much that you could have done, and secondly because even if there was, you wouldn't give a shit. And if I was in the same position, I wouldn't give a shit either. You could've died because of some idiot with a knife, and the last thing you wanna hear is some Self-Defense guru or a keyboard warrior who's never gotten in any real street fights telling you "Well if you did this this and this, you could've stopped him."
