Economy Stocks thread v28: in loving memory of Rob Mafia and Brackis1

So, out of everything, this is what finally causes Tesla's stock to drop, after rising for like 2 months:

Shares of Tesla slid 8% on Thursday as CEO Elon Musk and President Donald Trump traded barbs over the spending bill making its way through Congress.

Trump spoke from the Oval Office Thursday and said Musk was upset that EV credits were not included in the bill.

“Elon and I had a great relationship. I don’t know if we will anymore,” Trump said in the Oval Office on Thursday. “I was surprised.”

“Whatever,” Musk fired back as the president spoke.

“Without me, Trump would have lost the election, Dems would control the House and the Republicans would be 51-49 in the Senate,” he posted on X.
 
Market went to shit all of a sudden

Just can’t break that 6000 SPY barrier
 
TSLA finished down 14.26% for the day. After hours it is down another 1.43% right now.

Even PLTR was down almost 8% today too.
 
This causes me pain sherbros...

Closed out my small RYCEY position today at $1.5965. My average cost per-share was $1.59. Not exactly a monumental gain. Oh well. Switched the $ to URI at $316. Added some more to WGO and IESC as well.

I wrote that in 2022. Stock is $12 a share now.

My URI has more than doubled since then....IESC has gone from $40 to $270 (WGO is down) so I made some money where I switched it to, but I wish I still had some money riding on it.

Saw the potential but got impatient.
 
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So, out of everything, this is what finally causes Tesla's stock to drop, after rising for like 2 months:

Shares of Tesla slid 8% on Thursday as CEO Elon Musk and President Donald Trump traded barbs over the spending bill making its way through Congress.

Trump spoke from the Oval Office Thursday and said Musk was upset that EV credits were not included in the bill.

“Elon and I had a great relationship. I don’t know if we will anymore,” Trump said in the Oval Office on Thursday. “I was surprised.”

“Whatever,” Musk fired back as the president spoke.


“Without me, Trump would have lost the election, Dems would control the House and the Republicans would be 51-49 in the Senate,” he posted on X.

What an easy way to short the stock

Trump can rally or curb any stock he likes with just a tweet and tell his insider buddies to place their bets ahead of time
 
My entire future is leveraged on MSFT. Reaching all-time high again. Fuck yesssssss. Im rich!
 
My entire future is leveraged on MSFT. Reaching all-time high again. Fuck yesssssss. Im rich!
- I presumed that since you live on a boat. Or you were broke like a 90's action hero, that lives on a yatch, drives a sport car, but always acepts another adventure for money.
 
- I presumed that since you live on a boat. Or you were broke like a 90's action hero, that lives on a yatch, drives a sport car, but always acepts another adventure for money.

Bro. You are describing the life I want to live. Like The Fall Guy meets The A Team kinda stuff.

Truth is... it's better to be lucky than good.
 

US stocks end lower, crude gains as Trump-Musk row distracts from trade talks, data​

By Stephen Culp

  • Trump-Musk dispute impacts Tesla shares, Nasdaq falls
  • Trump-Xi call raises hopes for trade dispute resolution
  • ECB cuts rates as expected; Lagarde sets table for summer pause
  • Weak labor data raises Fed rate cut expectations
NEW YORK, June 5 (Reuters) - Wall Street veered to a sharply lower close and crude prices advanced on Thursday as a high-profile dispute between U.S. President Donald Trump and billionaire Elon Musk overshadowed trade talks between Washington and Beijing and a spate of downbeat economic data.

Stocks wavered through much of the session, but turned decisively lower as a falling-out unfolded between Trump and Musk, the billionaire Trump tapped to lead the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE).

A 14.3% plunge in Tesla shares (TSLA.O), opens new tab followed Trump's threats to terminate Musk's government subsidies after Musk criticized Trump's tax and spending bill. Tesla helped pull the Nasdaq down the most, while the S&P 500 and the Dow suffered shallower losses.

"There's a diversity of opinion on whether or not the 'Big, Beautiful Bill' addresses the debt or the deficit at all, or if it goes in the opposite direction," said Thomas Martin, Senior Portfolio Manager at GLOBALT in Atlanta. "This Trump-Musk spat sort of exemplifies that."

Trump held talks with Xi by phone on Thursday in an effort to iron out trade disputes between the world's two largest economies that have buffeted the global economy, and they agreed to further discussions, according to U.S. and Chinese summaries of their call.

"The market seems to be accepting that if they're talking they're not going to do anything drastic, and if they don't do anything drastic, then it's okay to buy stocks now," Thomas added. "People are just sort of guessing and wondering which way the wind is blowing and the wind keeps shifting."

"I think investors want to own stocks and they're afraid of missing out, but they also don't want to own stocks if it's going to be a disaster," Martin added.
Economic data showed initial jobless claims hit the highest level since October, while a 16.3% drop in imports - arising from Trump's erratic tariff policy - resulted in the narrowest U.S. trade gap since November 2023.

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Weaker-than-expected labor market data, including a 47% year-on-year jump in Challenger layoffs and a significant downside surprise in ADP's private payrolls, are dampening expectations for the Labor Department's closely watched May employment report expected on Friday.

But Matthew Keator, managing partner in the Keator Group in Lenox, Massachusetts believes the softer data could open the door for the Federal Reserve to implement more than one rate cut before the end of the year.

"With some of the more benign inflation numbers that have come through recently and a potential pick-up in jobless claims might give the Fed a little bit more cause to (cut interest rates) at least maybe more than once this year," Keator said.

"That could be an encouraging sign, particularly for some sectors."
The Dow Jones Industrial Average (.DJI), opens new tab fell 108.00 points, or 0.25%, to 42,319.74, the S&P 500 (.SPX), opens new tab fell 31.48 points, or 0.53%, to 5,939.33 and the Nasdaq Composite (.IXIC), opens new tab fell 162.04 points, or 0.83%, to 19,298.45.

ECB CUTS RATES

As widely expected, the European Central Bank lowered its three key interest rates by 25 basis points, a decision based on its updated economic outlook now that inflation is currently around the central bank's 2% target.

Even so, European shares pared earlier gains to close only slightly in positive territory after ECB President Christine Lagarde appeared to float the possibility of a summer pause in its year-long easing cycle.

MSCI's gauge of stocks across the globe (.MIWD00000PUS), opens new tab fell 2.47 points, or 0.28%, to 886.46.
The pan-European STOXX 600 (.STOXX), opens new tab index rose 0.16%, while Europe's broad FTSEurofirst 300 index (.FTEU3), opens new tab rose 4.07 points, or 0.19%

Emerging market stocks (.MSCIEF), opens new tab rose 9.94 points, or 0.85%, to 1,182.39. MSCI's broadest index of Asia-Pacific shares outside Japan (.MIAPJ0000PUS), opens new tab closed higher by 0.81%, to 622.86, while Japan's Nikkei (.N225), opens new tab fell 192.96 points, or 0.51%, to 37,554.49.

The dollar erased earlier gains in the wake of the soft U.S. economic indicators and Lagarde's hints at an ECB rate pause.

The dollar index , which measures the greenback against a basket of currencies including the yen and the euro, rose 0.01% to 98.80, with the euro up 0.18% at $1.1437.

Against the Japanese yen , the dollar strengthened 0.68% to 143.73.
U.S. Treasury yields gained ground as trade deal hopes outweighed soft economic data.

The yield on benchmark U.S. 10-year notes rose 3.5 basis points to 4.4%, from 4.365% late on Wednesday.
The 30-year bond yield was flat at 4.8877% from 4.888% late on Wednesday.

The 2-year note yield, which typically moves in step with interest rate expectations for the Federal Reserve, rose 5.6 basis points to 3.933%, from 3.877% late on Wednesday.

Crude oil prices rose after reports of the Trump/Xi call, which helped investors look past the U.S. stockpile buildup and Saudi Arabia's July price cuts for Asia.

U.S. crude rose 0.83% to settle at $63.37 per barrel, while Brent settled at $65.34 per barrel, up 0.74% on the day.

Gold prices reversed an earlier gain after the Trump-Xi call hinted at a thaw in trade relations between Washington and Beijing.
Spot gold fell 0.56% to $3,356.41 an ounce. U.S. gold futures fell 0.48% to $3,357.30 an ounce.

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/global-markets-wrapup-1-2025-06-05/
 
Bro. You are describing the life I want to live. Like The Fall Guy meets The A Team kinda stuff.

Truth is... it's better to be lucky than good.
- THunder in paradise?
 
How much longer will markets continue roaring forward? SPY and QQQ's about to hit record highs.

I don't really see many bargains out there in terms of tech right now. I'm starting to stack some cash a side.
 
Oil up bigly because of what's going on in Iran. Was up 13% at one point. Up 7% now.

OXY up 5% premarket. Be nice if that moves at least.
 
How much longer will markets continue roaring forward? SPY and QQQ's about to hit record highs.

I don't really see many bargains out there in terms of tech right now. I'm starting to stack some cash a side.
GOOGL seemed like a pretty clear buy to me when it was down to ~$140 recently. Slowly moved back up to $180 now, which I still wouldn't consider expensive for it. Nothing else stands out, but I also stay away from a lot of tech.
 
How much longer will markets continue roaring forward? SPY and QQQ's about to hit record highs.

I don't really see many bargains out there in terms of tech right now. I'm starting to stack some cash a side.

I started a few days ago. Sold a handful of long term holds.
 
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