Stipe needs to understand that this isnt about him anymore

[Bacco]

It's not about him, it's about the UFC and their lack of integrity and their desperation more than anything.

Brock Lesnar doesn't belong anywhere near the UFC.

 

[sangreporsangre]

We all talked shit about bisping and Woodley when they were ducking legit contenders in favor of money fights and somehow DC gets a pass?

Hard to compare the murderer's row that Bisping ducked to the HW "contenders" that will be getting passed over here. It remains a freakshow division even a decade after Brock got his title shot against Randy. That's why this isn't a big deal, man: because if DC doesn't get the Brock fight, he can fight a rematch against Stipe (who he just KTFO in round 1) which will be a hard sell, or who else? Blaydes? Lewis? It won't make any money but it will satisfy some hardcores who post on Sherdog....that's not how this business is being run.

I'm happy for DC that he's gonna get a life-changing payday, and the fact that it's such a joke fight doesn't bother me too much because the HW division is garbage. UFC gave up any pretense to legitimacy a long time ago, so if they won't bother pretending anymore why should we?

 

[HHJ]

It isnt about him anymore,but that dont mean he aint cant say what he gotta say about it.

 

[SeattleFightFan]

Hard to compare the murderer's row that Bisping ducked to the HW "contenders" that will be getting passed over here. It remains a freakshow division even a decade after Brock got his title shot against Randy. That's why this isn't a big deal, man: because if DC doesn't get the Brock fight, he can fight a rematch against Stipe (who he just KTFO in round 1) which will be a hard sell, or who else? Blaydes? Lewis? It won't make any money but it will satisfy some hardcores who post on Sherdog....that's not how this business is being run.

I'm happy for DC that he's gonna get a life-changing payday, and the fact that it's such a joke fight doesn't bother me too much because the HW division is garbage. UFC gave up any pretense to legitimacy a long time ago, so if they won't bother pretending anymore why should we?

it's not hard to compare at all.

"Hey Bisping, do you want a big fight with a big payday?" yes.
"Hey DC, do you want a big fight with a big payday?" yes.

if anyone actually expects one of these guys to actually say "well, i don't think it's fair to the #1 contender, so can we please give me a harder fight for 1/10th the money please?" that's where the haters are getting stupid, making assumptions that the fighters should act in a way that no one would ever act, ever, because of Bushido or some such thing. Bisping and DC are not doing anything wrong; the UFC is.

 

[HHJ]

We all talked shit about bisping and Woodley when they were ducking legit contenders in favor of money fights and somehow DC gets a pass?

YEAH DC gets a fucking pass. He fucking just defended the LHW title,and just won the HW title.He beat Stipe,he beat Gus,Jones cheatin ass is in limbo,so whatever DC does from this point on is correct and just.

 

[MCS]

A swansong fight like this for a great isn't that uncommon. The uncommon thing is DC being #1 in two divisions while retiring. If you get past the deserving part you could compare him to Floyd boxing Conor in his last match. Cash in and exit on top.

 

[HHJ]

it's not hard to compare at all.

"Hey Bisping, do you want a big fight with a big payday?" yes.
"Hey DC, do you want a big fight with a big payday?" yes.

if anyone actually expects one of these guys to actually say "well, i don't think it's fair to the #1 contender, so can we please give me a harder fight for 1/10th the money please?" that's where the haters are getting stupid, making assumptions that the fighters should act in a way that no one would ever act, ever, because of Bushido or some such thing. Bisping and DC are not doing anything wrong; the UFC is.

The company they work for,the UFC is basically saying "Hey we like what your doin,you tryna make more money?"

NO,I CANT. THE PEOPLE ON SHERDOG WILL BE MAD AT ME.

 

[WhosTheBoss]

How does someone that has 3-title-defenses deserve an immediate rematch after getting KTFO in the first? lol

How does someone with zero title defenses fight someone in a higher weight class... lose.... continue to hold up his own weight class.... have a rematch with the dude who beat his ass.... and still not defend a belt?

Lol

 

[sangreporsangre]

it's not hard to compare at all.

"Hey Bisping, do you want a big fight with a big payday?" yes.
"Hey DC, do you want a big fight with a big payday?" yes.

if anyone actually expects one of these guys to actually say "well, i don't think it's fair to the #1 contender, so can we please give me a harder fight for 1/10th the money please?" that's where the haters are getting stupid. Bisping and DC are not doing anything wrong; the UFC is.

Looking at just the fighter, sure. I don't see why anyone would even try to shit on either guy when any one of us would do the same thing. I just mean in terms of looking at the division as a fan and lamenting the fact that the champ is passing over contenders for a money fight. Bisping had Yoel, Jacare, Weidman and Rockhold, all killers who had a pretty compelling case for a title shot. DC has.....Stipe I guess. The HW division blows.

 

[Topguntrophey]

You tell him that.

 

[SeattleFightFan]

Looking at just the fighter, sure. I don't see why anyone would even try to shit on either guy when any one of us would do the same thing. I just mean in terms of looking at the division as a fan and lamenting the fact that the champ is passing over contenders for a money fight. Bisping had Yoel, Jacare, Weidman and Rockhold, all killers who had a pretty compelling case for a title shot. DC has.....Stipe I guess. The HW division blows.

ya, some truth to that. when Randy fought Sylvia there weren't any other really good options. but when Bisping fought GSP there were 5+ other good options. that's what made it feel so much worse.

but really that's a gut feel reaction. intellectually and philosophically there is little to no difference. UFC makes money fights over meritocratic ones, and champs gladly accept bigger paydays. and my main argument is that it's not logical to blame the fighters for their part in this.

 

[Lilly Hannah]

ya, some truth to that. when Randy fought Sylvia there weren't any other really good options. but when Bisping fought GSP there were 5+ other good options. that's what made it feel so much worse.

but really that's a gut feel reaction. intellectually and philosophically there is little to no difference. UFC makes money fights over meritocratic ones, and champs gladly accept bigger paydays. and my main argument is that it's not logical to blame the fighters for their part in this.

Sherdog only cares about 'logic' as part of pych' warfare against fighters or other posters. What Sherdog actually cares about are shitty arguments, gossip, and finding inventive ways to fighter bash without getting banned.

 

[Paolo Delutis]

i agree but who are we to say?? its DC's WISH! he wants that fight!

Its the UFC not UDC..who gives a shit who d.c wants to fight..theres a process of contendership and rematches that should take precedents over non sense like brock lesnaroid

 

[FloydMayweatherMMA]

at this point surely it is only the stipe fans that have tricked themselves into thinking a rematch is justified. 1st round flatlined KO and.. rematch? The audacity...

Worked for Joanna

 

[ArtemV]

I agree, DC has no reason to give Miocic a rematch. He slept him in the first and wants an easier route to retirement.

 

[Flokk]

it's not hard to compare at all.

"Hey Bisping, do you want a big fight with a big payday?" yes.
"Hey DC, do you want a big fight with a big payday?" yes.

if anyone actually expects one of these guys to actually say "well, i don't think it's fair to the #1 contender, so can we please give me a harder fight for 1/10th the money please?" that's where the haters are getting stupid, making assumptions that the fighters should act in a way that no one would ever act, ever, because of Bushido or some such thing. Bisping and DC are not doing anything wrong; the UFC is.

It's only the same if, as OP said, you ignore the lack of deserving contenders at HW.

Bisping ducked everybody. Not unlike GSP's "comeback."

There's nobody for DC to duck. Except the guy he just knocked the fuck out in one round.

People need to get over themselves, lol.

 

[CerebralKnievel]

Lol Stipe doesn't call anyone out. He wouldnt go for those WWE shenanigans.

They brought Brock into the building and escorted him cageside before the fight. The cameras made a point of showing him several times. DC's callout was as lame and scripted as it could be. He obviously didn't just come up with that off the top of his head, and the officials and broadcast team don't just permit people into the cage to carry out their own personal antics. That was arranged in advance for whomever won that night. This was also all evident by the insipid smile on Dana's face throughout the events.

 

[JinKazama]

its not like the first fight was a draw or highly contested decision

I like stipe but unfortunately DC can call the shots after that ko

 

[Ancient Warrior]

We don't even know if Brawk can even fight clean... We may very well see DC-Stipe 2.

There is no way in hell Brock fights clean.

He’s got some kind of a plan to beat the system.

 

[SeattleFightFan]

It's only the same if, as OP said, you ignore the lack of deserving contenders at HW.

Bisping ducked everybody. Not unlike GSP's "comeback."

There's nobody for DC to duck. Except the guy he just knocked the fuck out in one round.

People need to get over themselves, lol.

your argument seems to be this: "accepting a big payday against an unranked opponent is acceptable to you if and only if the current top 5 rankings are undeserving, as defined by general consensus. therefore DC's fighting Brock is acceptable and Bisping's fighting GSP is not."

i find that argument spurious. that's the nicest way i can put it

both guys were offered big money fights. both gladly accepted. Bisping should not be held to a different standard. and you'll have to look fucking hard to find a bigger Bisping detractor than me.