Sticking to your game

[sha]

Reading the Lucas Leite thread got me curious and I started looking for video of his half guard game. I found this one:

YouTube - BJJ WORLD CHAMPION LUCAS LEITE FRIENDLY ROLLING WITH BLUE BELT

I noticed he uses the exact same half guard sweep (old school) against a blue belt that he uses in NAGA or Grappler's Quest.

Which is funny because I always thought if you were rolling with someone whose level is much lower than yours, this would be the time to try other things and go for that crazy submission you saw on lockflow.com

But I guess that's why he's beating Kron and winning tournaments, and I'm on Sherdog. What about you, do you always stick to the same game, or do you try something different every roll?

 

[randomg1t]

generally i try to keep drilling the same things.

i've been rolling with an awful lot of complete noobs lately though. it's funny how suddenly the more complex moves simply don't work on them because they don't move around the same way more experienced guys do.

 

[thepopularjock]

generally i try to keep drilling the same things.

i've been rolling with an awful lot of complete noobs lately though. it's funny how suddenly the more complex moves simply don't work on them because they don't move around the same way more experienced guys do.

That is kind of interesting.
I'm not training BJJ right now (no schools in my new town) but that makes a lot of sense.

 

[Afrofeet]

generally i try to keep drilling the same things.

i've been rolling with an awful lot of complete noobs lately though. it's funny how suddenly the more complex moves simply don't work on them because they don't move around the same way more experienced guys do.

LOL yeah, I started to experiment with diferent de la riva guard sweeps, and everytime I put the deep hooks, new guys just fall, before I try to do some moves.

 

[Silverblur]

I wouldn't say it's a time to try crazy unorthadox submission you found on the internet, but It's definately time to try to add something new to you're game.

Once you're a world champion though, I think you've probabely pretty much figured out what works for you.

 

[megatonjits]

when megaton comes to eugene he rolls serious. You would think it at first and then bam submission and you tap quick if you don't your arm turn useless for a week, or in my case my wrist. Most instructor generally play nice, but hey your a blue belt so no more white belt practices time to step up the game.

 

[TalkShowOnMute]

At his level, he can really play any way he wants, he has a developed game already, a personal style...

at the blue/purple/brown, I feel that your personal style is being developed, and trying as many things in rolling as possible exposes you to more possibilities for you own personal game. This is where you find your jiu jitsu mojo. Black is all about refinement on my mind anyway.

 

[wOg]

After four years, I stick to my bread and butter most of the time.

My goal isn't so much to be able to do a lot of different techniques as it is to find the best ways for me to get into and out of the good and bad situations I find myself in.

Another good thing about this approach is that as your teammates start to figure your game out, it forces you to make natural adaptations and evolve your game. So, to me, sticking with my basic game never gets boring because I know my teammates are constantly testing it.

 

[ijustwannasurf]

yeah he's pretty good with that GORDO sweep

 

[Fred in Houston]

Yeah, it's a GORDO sweep, not a "old-school".

 

[sha]

Everybody calls it "old school". At least this way people know what you're talking about.

 

[esila]

generally i try to keep drilling the same things.
i've been rolling with an awful lot of complete noobs lately though. it's funny how suddenly the more complex moves simply don't work on them because they don't move around the same way more experienced guys do.

QFT. This reminds me of something Marcelo said in an Arte Suave interview:



Starts around 1:03, basically saying that there are tons of different types of grapplers, each with different games / level / bodytypes. You should open up your game and "let them escape", so you can see all the variations of how a person might escape a tech, thus building your arsenal of counters to their counters.

So basically, you have a set of advanced techs that work on the experienced guys because you're familiar with how they will react to a particular situation (you put them in De La Riva, they know they have to get their leg out of there, but they will do so by pressuring down on you - here you have a chance to grab their lapel, sleeve, etc, work your game / however, a total newb will just simply fall over, or do something completely out of the norm i.e. soccer kicking you, leg-spaz-pull, etc.) This is just another opportunity to feel what they might do and adjust accordingly.

 

[randomg1t]

^^ exactly.

except what i meant was real noobs. like guys training for a cupple of weeks. i've injured my knee not long ago and am sort of holding back on the heavy sparring. it's really interesting how you drill stuff for ages to get it working on the better opponents and when you finally get it down the noob won't even put himself into that position.

but what marcelo is saying is very true. you have to roll with everyone to have a complete game. except maybe not total beginners, those are just not any fun.

it should also be noted that arte suave is the tits.