State of the Welterweight Division

Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by RiotWyatt, Jul 31, 2016.

  1. RiotWyatt

    RiotWyatt Black Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2012
    Messages:
    5,574
    Likes Received:
    9,020
    Fights to make
    - Woodley vs. Thompson(Championship)
    - MacDonald vs. Hendricks
    - Gastelum vs. Lawler
    - Brown vs. Masvidal
    - Kim vs. Nelson
    - Saffeidine vs. Alves

    Fights already booked
    - Condit vs Maia(#1 Contenders)
    - Story vs Cerrone
    - Magny vs Larkin
     
  2. dildos

    dildos Steel Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2011
    Messages:
    25,773
    Likes Received:
    53,579
    Location:
    Sydney
    It just got very interesting. Not that it wasn't before.
     
    OxSxM likes this.
  3. Drake

    Drake Guest

    Feed Ellenberger to Johny...
     
  4. HHJ

    HHJ Fedor Supremacist

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2004
    Messages:
    78,121
    Likes Received:
    77,196
    Location:
    Ultima Thule
    so many good fights in there
     
  5. Cygnus-X

    Cygnus-X Red Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2009
    Messages:
    7,753
    Likes Received:
    916
    This division has been the most awesome thing after GSP left (not a knock)
     
  6. BC

    BC Helax

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2011
    Messages:
    18,255
    Likes Received:
    121,831
    Yikes HI Johny boy doesn't need to eat anything for a long time. :D
     
    Myrddin Wild, eli9567 and Drake like this.
  7. Drake

    Drake Guest

    <28>
     
  8. johncola

    johncola Red Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2011
    Messages:
    8,303
    Likes Received:
    6,700
    I think the UFC are matchmaking around Woodley's preferences from now on. He still needs willing opponents though. He doesn't want to fight Wonderboy or Maia or Condit or Rory. GSP and Diaz don't want to fight him. There aren't really any money fights, so they'll instead just make the easiest fights:

    Woodley vs. Marquardt 2 so Tyron can avenge a loss
    Saffiedine vs. Kim for #1 contendership

    Wonderboy vs. Condit/Maia winner (loser leaves town)
    Rory will be allowed to go to Bellator
     
  9. BC

    BC Helax

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2011
    Messages:
    18,255
    Likes Received:
    121,831
    :D:D
    Skip the fries you know what I mean?
     
    Myrddin Wild, eli9567 and Drake like this.
  10. RiotWyatt

    RiotWyatt Black Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2012
    Messages:
    5,574
    Likes Received:
    9,020
    It was always a good division even before GSP was ever champ

    Before he became Champ there were:
    - Diaz
    - Trigg
    - Sherk
    - Hughes
    - Penn
    - Karo
    - Riggs

    After he became champ:
    - Fitch
    - Alves
    - Koscheck
    - Shields
    - Kampmann
    - Sanchez
     
  11. chinarice

    chinarice Gold Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2010
    Messages:
    24,394
    Likes Received:
    33,684
    Location:
    Sometimes I like to fart in the tub
    Woodley wants to keep his belt so there is no way he wants to fight GSP, the WW that is better than every other WW ever.
     
  12. TheRuthlessOne

    TheRuthlessOne Violence Belt Yellow Card

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2014
    Messages:
    33,752
    Likes Received:
    56,971
    If lawler beats gastlum then beats the loser of wonderboy/woodley he is right back in the mix

    WAR LAWLER!
     
    Not Tuf likes this.
  13. johncola

    johncola Red Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2011
    Messages:
    8,303
    Likes Received:
    6,700
    Woodley specifically asked to fight GSP at MSG. He wants to get paid first and foremost. And I don't think GSP is better than any other WW ever. Rory and Wonderboy are both better.

    I'd pick the GSP of old to beat Woodley, but I wouldn't be sure. He couldn't beat Hendricks. GSP might be able to jab Woodley to death and avoid takedowns. Or even get takedowns himself and gas Woodley out. But a Woodley KO is a also a huge possibility. We don't know that we'll get the GSP of old. We don't know what he'll look like upon a potential return.
     
  14. Cygnus-X

    Cygnus-X Red Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2009
    Messages:
    7,753
    Likes Received:
    916
    Yes. However, when he left, as when most dominant champions lose, it suddenly creates this huge wave across the entire division and suddenly you have incredibly awesome and relevant fights everywhere due to the openness of contendership, whereas previously it was a very steep ladder where contendership was a crystal clear, long and ardous process.
     
    Not Tuf likes this.
  15. chinarice

    chinarice Gold Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2010
    Messages:
    24,394
    Likes Received:
    33,684
    Location:
    Sometimes I like to fart in the tub
    Yeah you can think that but you're wrong.

    Neither of these guys are nearly as good as prime GSP. Like a guy that gasses in 5 minutes is gonna beat GSP more than one time out of ten.
     
  16. johncola

    johncola Red Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2011
    Messages:
    8,303
    Likes Received:
    6,700
    Are you sure you aren't just a diehard GSP fan? (nothing wrong with that)
     
  17. chinarice

    chinarice Gold Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2010
    Messages:
    24,394
    Likes Received:
    33,684
    Location:
    Sometimes I like to fart in the tub
    Are you sure you are not a GSP hater? (Nothing out of the ordinary, here)
     
  18. johncola

    johncola Red Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2011
    Messages:
    8,303
    Likes Received:
    6,700
    No, I'm a fan. And I've not said anything extreme. I said I'd pick the GSP of old to beat Woodley. edit: Meanwhile, you say Woodley only wins 10% of the time. That's extreme. GSP's betting odds wouldn't be nearly that good.

    And Rory and Wonderboy are both bad matchups for him.
     
  19. chinarice

    chinarice Gold Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2010
    Messages:
    24,394
    Likes Received:
    33,684
    Location:
    Sometimes I like to fart in the tub
    Yeah man, I'm a fan of Rory and Woodley too man. They just aren't as good as prime GSP.
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.